B0ycey wrote:It seems silly to be arguing semantics, but the term has a meaning that the author dictates, not 'we' the second party. You can argue whether the term is factual or not, or whether the term should be used. But you cannot dictate its meaning.
I don't understand where you get the idea from that I want or have tried to dictate the meaning. Could you explain or show me where I've done this? What I've intended to do - and I think I've done - is criticise the term's definition, not least because it encompasses a seemingly ever increasing set of behaviours, opinions and attitudes. You can easily see this by going to the blog the OP article regards as "an excellent definition of rape culture" and which I linked earlier. Among other things, it claims that treating heterosexuality as the norm or using the word rape in a different context is rape culture. Furthermore, I have indeed put forward the idea that we should reject the term and not use it at all.
B0ycey wrote:It is a snippet. And seems metaphoric to me. But yes, I would agree with it to some extent. There is a lot of mental pressure put on people having sex when they maybe don't want it. And you could indeed call that 'mental terrorism' as it could involve intimidation or agressive linguistics.
I'm temped to call this response "mental terrorism".
You keep doing exactly what you say we shouldn't do: note that the article uses the phrase "physical and emotional terrorism" which you change to mean "mental terrorism" which you use to describe mental pressure to have sex. Not only are you dropping the "physical" entirely, but nothing in the OP's article suggests your interpretation of the phrase as a major area of concern of "rape culture" proponents. In fact, breaking taboos, and especially sexual taboos, is part and parcel of being progressive. Phrases such as being sexually repressed and being prudish have been used for decades by progressives to criticise and ridicule people.
B0ycey wrote:I don't think you are complicit to rape culture if you do give advice actually. I think you misinterpreted that sentence from confusing the terms telling from advising. But let's say you are correct and I am indeed part of 'rape culture', all that proves is that rape culture exists.
If I say to a women don't go home alone after a party, am I advising her or telling her? Honestly, you are either making this more complicated than necessary or trying to be too charitable. The central point is that putting the onus on the potential victim in any way is "victim blaming" and part of "rape culture".
B0ycey wrote:As for rape culture, I am going to repeat what I have already said. Regardless of who coined the phase, they have a point and is indeed what is occuring in todays society. But I don't use this phase outside this thread. I also think it is counter effective due to the emotions the term 'rape' brings to it. The phases doesn't mean that everyone is going around raping, just setting the conditions for rape and the acceptance of it along with under valuing the victims claims they were raped. So like I said, if you and like-minded people don't like the phase don't use it. But unfortunately that is the topic of this thread and the question in the poll. So unless you begin a new thread on rape, on here to have to deal with the term 'rape culture' and the meaning that it is associated with.
Please see above regarding your odd idea that I don't deal with the term as defined. Again, it seems to me that's what you have been doing.