Bulaba Jones wrote:Do you realize how you just successfully role-reversed with progressives/liberals by demanding a serious conversation about the Dems?
I'm an Ancap, So I feel I can be pretty objective on this stuff if I need to be, my support for the current administration is purely pragmatic, plus I like Trump on a personal level.
Otherwise, I come from a family that was historically democrat for over 100 years, consistently. My mother's side were Southern Democrats from a line of southern democrat and my father's side were immigrant coal-miners hailing from Czechoslovakia, Ireland, etc.
There were no republicans in my family until after A.D. 2000, and no one in my immediate family voted Republican until 2012 (2016 was the first election my father and I ever particpated in directly). So I still have a sorrowful connection to the Democrat Party.
Bulaba Jones wrote:If the Democrats weren't so horribly mismanaged, incoherent, and in general just a complete mess, they could pull off a midterm victory. They still can, I'm just not sure they're going to be able to. They have indeed become a weak party, but a lot of that has to do with their incoherent message (they can't seem to decide what exactly identity politics means to them, and a number of other policy issues are similarly confused). As for PR, regardless of the muck the GOP drags itself in, it's pretty shameless and that's a strength for the Republicans. I have the sense the Democrats still haven't quite gotten to the point of completely forgiving themselves for rigging the vote against Sanders: we all know it's not the first time it's happened with the Democrats or the GOP, but the Democrats have gotten worse at handling their PR fallout. All of that points to a party in massive decline, and I don't see any signs of tremendous overhaul.
I think this analysis is all correct and I think there is a big chance that the two-party system will evaporate into a fractured system of several serious parties more like you see in Europe.
The Republicans will split into at least two parties; one which is a populist-nationalist party not unlike the European Far-Right, but a bit more moderate, built around Trumpian style Tariffs, etc., the other party would be the Tea-Party types and will likely merge with the Libertarians.
The Democrats should split between Social-Democrats (Admitted Socialists) along the Cortez/Bernie lines and merge with the Green party while the rest of the Democrats (neo-liberal clinton types) should merge with the stragglers of more progressive neo-cons who can't find their place between the Trumpian and Tea-Party segments.
So, Four New Parties (purely speculative I admit, but we may see something like this in our lifetime:
The National Party of America. [Nationalists/Populists]- Formerly Republican Mainly.
- Trumpian, Nationalist, Populist, Pro-Tariffs, Anti-Immigration.
- Also Supported By Outcast Blue-Dog Former-Democrats.
-Strong Military, Generally Anti-Intervention though.
The American Liberty Convention. [Libertarians/Constitutionalists]- Formerly Republican Primarily.
- Tea Party Types, Free-Trade, Free-Markets, Low-Reg. Civil Liberties.
-Merged With Constituionalists and Libertarians as well.
- Anti-Intervention and Anti-Military spending.
The Democratic-Republican Convention. [Moderates/Globalists]- Formerly Democrat, Primarily.
- Corporatist, Hawkish, Pro-Capitalist but in a New Deal way.
- Globalist, but Pro-Intervention and Big military.
- Socially progressive, but not to identity politics level.
- Also made up of more socially progressive Neo-Cons former-Republicans.
The Social-Democratic Party of America. [Socialists/Leftists]- Former Democrat Party Primarily.
- More openly socialist, single-payer programs.
- Identity politics, open-borders, non-interventionist.
- Merged with Green party and smaller socialist parties.
We'll see what happens.