y deja que mi alma se- pierda en- tus riachuelos
para buscar la fuente que te robó de niño
y en un ímpetu loco te devolvió al sendero.
Wandering the information superhighway, he came upon the last refuge of civilization, PoFo, the only forum on the internet ...
Heisenberg wrote:I think this depends on how we define Trump's "supporters".
If it means anyone who voted for him in 2016, then I'd say no - they aren't all inherently racists. Elections are strange events where millions of people with different interests, passions, beliefs etc are made to decide between two candidates. I don't think everyone who voted for Trump had race or immigration as their primary agenda.
However, if we mean people who still enthusiastically back Trump now, I'd say yes. At the very least, they have to turn a blind eye to so much of what he says and does that the distinction between being a racist, and simply enabling one, becomes more or less meaningless.
Tainari88 wrote:I think anyone who ignored Trump's first racially charged speech before the elections and still voted for him? Are racists Heisenberg. Because if you 'excuse' very obvious instances of racist language?
Tainari88 wrote:Another point is that racism is almost always linked to some form of socioeconomic class-based discrimination.
They are not our friend, believe me. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
Rancid wrote:I voted "Maybe they are subconsciously racist" However, I would have preferred for there to be an "Other".
I don't believe that just because you voted for Trump you are automatically a racist. Most people on the planet vote based on one, maybe two specific issues. They are often willing to compromise their principles just to get the one or two things they want most out of a politician. In the case of Trump, I'm sure there are a ton of people that just hated Hillary more than anything. Perhaps they really liked Trump's talk about bringing back coal jobs, or destroying the EPA. etc. etc. They simply valued those other things more than his racist langauge.
Does that make them racist? I guess you can extrapolate that to say they are racist, but I don't entirely buy it. I would argue its more about selfishness than being a racist.
I'm sure there are a ton of racists in the Trump camp, but all of them racist? I don't believe it.
Last, there are a lot of people that join hate/racist groups that aren't genuinely racist. They join those groups for other reasons. Namely, these are peopel that often come from bad homes, and they are looking for a sense of family and belonging. Sometimes, the nearest place to find that is in the local KKK chapter.... >=\
Tainari88 wrote:For a Trump voter? What do you think @Rancid?
Tainari88 wrote:Oh @One Degree One your racist comments are very obvious.
The modern United States has millions upon millions of citizens who are non-European. Legally you can't exclude them from the rule of law or have their kids not attend public schools, or do this or that about not wanting a 'culture' change.
Your entire comments are about not understanding international-multinational capitalism and how it is structured.
Why would a capitalist not care about keeping a community racially or ethnically pure? Why are capitalists pro-multiculturalism?
Why is white nationalism not acceptable to a corporate capitalist that is internationalist?
You need to go over that OD.
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