annatar1914 wrote:Time never was on their side, because I have the strong suspicion that Trump upset some kind of long term political timetable that the Democrats had going on, when he won in 2016.
That's a trenchant insight, and I agree to the extent that I think there is a shadowy group that had this timeline. I don't think it can be called the Democratic Party as such, nor the Republican Party--both have worked against the interests of the people, and the illegal alien issue alone is enough evidence to suggest that they do not care about democracy at all. That's why @late's "perils of Paulina" routine about the end of democracy fall flat. I found Nancy Pelosi's screed this morning absolutely comical: Republicans have normalized lawlessness
. I have a few two word phrases to rebut that: illegal aliens, sanctuary cities. Nancy Pelosi is from a district where you cannot have Uber Eats deliver alcohol to your door (so you have to drive drunk if you're not yet drunk enough but would like to have booze delivered to your door), and you cannot use self-checkout to buy booze, but the city itself will give needles and methodone to addicts at taxypayers expense. These people couldn't even come up with a section of the United States Code or the Code of Federal Regulations that Trump had violated, and yet their leader has the temerity to write such a screed when it has been the Democrats excusing lawlessness in so many instances--in the case of impeachment, Joe and Hunter Biden's behavior--which became front and center in the attention of the American electorate why? Because of Trump? No, because Lt. Col Vindman, Eric Ciaramella, Adam Schiff's staff and a compliant press thought that would be a basis for attacking Trump. Trump's numbers went up from his 2016 election win numbers of 37% approval to 49% approval, and Biden's campaign imploded. The Democrats are lost, as in the wilderness as Mitt Romney.
annatar1914 wrote:A timetable that was part of plan that unfortunately for them was keyed to the physical lifespan of some of their top leadership. Losing 2016, some of them won't see post-Trump in 2024 and after outside of hospice care. They lost a window of opportunity that they'll never see again in their lifetimes.
Oh no doubt. Biden called another voter--a woman this time--a liar. He's blown his head gasket too.
annatar1914 wrote:Depends on the kind of political legacy he wants to leave behind. This is Sanders last race.
If he was truly a sucker and believed that the DNC changed the Iowa rules, but this app was designed by Hillary Clinton acolytes, his legacy would be that of a fool if he took the bribe again. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
annatar1914 wrote:I'm going to use an analogy. It's not about thinking ''2+2=5'', nobody really does, it's about exercising the power over you to make you and everybody else say ''2+2=5''. And, the sure knowledge that if they can get you to say that, that they'll make your children and grandchildren believe that ''2+2=5''.
Yeah, and I don't think a lot of Democrats even understood that. You've got guys like @Politics_Observer who hate Trump and apparently love the Democrats, but there are a lot of Democrats who were horrified by Nancy Pelosi's behavior during the State of the Union.
annatar1914 wrote:That's what I think is really going to blindside them.
It will put them in the "trough of disillusionment" as Gartner Group might say.
Tainari88 wrote:They are going to back Bloomberg. The openly gay ex military dude married to his husband with billionaire pack money might not go down well with the rural American voters.
Maybe, but Bloomberg is as old as dirt too, is a bitty of a nanny state weenie, and he's already spent $300M for nothing. We'll see if he makes a name for himself on Super Tuesday. That's his game. Booty Judge, I think, is a bridge too far, but we've had Obama and Trump as presidents. The people hate the establishment now, and with good reason.
Tainari88 wrote:The only thing that might deter his second term is going to be the deep state people and some mysterious violent act and a cover up and Pence being framed.
Could be. Killing Trump is their last best hope. It would be Bill O'Reilly's next bestseller for sure.
Tainari88 wrote:It is over...the DNC handed the election to the Trumpet conman, swamp thing stinkbomb man...it is over!
Deep in that deep state is a very wealthy homosexual/transexual or a group of them holding sway that bought Justice Kennedy, bought many in leadership, and bought many in the media because so many people will trade even their last shred of self respect for money. The Democrats didn't and Trump anything. They were simply powerless to stop him, because they sold their moral foundation out to global free trade 30 years ago. It's staggering when you think about it.
"This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia – hysterical xenophobia – and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science."
-- Joe Biden on banning travel from China during the coronavirus outbreak