[Unthinking Majority]

Poll will be open until about the day before the election.

[Unthinking Majority]

Biden in the early lead!

[annatar1914]

Biden in the early lead!

A reflection more of PoFo liberal fantasy-land than political reality. But it'll be interesting to watch the ending either way-a kind of debacle and detachment from reality.

[Beren]

A reflection more of PoFo liberal fantasy-land than political reality. But it'll be interesting to watch the ending either way-a kind of debacle and detachment from reality.

Do you think you've already reached the point when you should leave this place forever instantly if Biden wins?

[Rancid]

Trump will win, but I want Biden to win


To be clear, I don't consider myself a Biden supporter.

[annatar1914]

Do you think you've already reached the point when you should leave this place forever instantly if Biden wins?

Sorry, not quite understanding your question. When Biden loses to Trump, it should be a time for reflection and honest soul searching among liberals. I am not a ''Conservative'' or a ''Liberal'', and am not voting for either of the major two-party picks, so there's no reason for me to ''leave'' here. In fact, perhaps my insights will be more valued.

I have consistently warned people that their obsessions with Trump out of ideological blindness would destroy everything.

[Deutschmania]

Based upon these projected figures , I anticipate that Biden will win . https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/2020_elections_electoral_college_map.html#! I feel completely confident that Biden will win the popular vote , and quite possibly the electoral vote as well . Needless to say , I remain hopeful that this will be so , although I cannot be entirely sure as to how the election will unfold .

[Beren]

Sorry, not quite understanding your question.

Don't you think you'll appear to be such a complete fool and embarrassment and will be a subject of ridicule to such an extent that you better leave if Biden wins?

[annatar1914]

Don't you think you'll appear to be such a complete fool and embarrassment and will be a subject of ridicule to such an extent that you better leave if Biden wins?

Actually no. Because if in the exceedingly small chance Biden wins, it will be entirely due to President Trump and his great hubris having alienated enough decent people that they either won't vote or they'll vote for someone else. It will have been his election to win or lose. As it is, I'm confident that my assessment of Trump winning re-election in 2020 is the correct one.

Whereas, the problems with Biden and the Democratic party rest more with ideology than with personality, there not being that much essential difference really between them and Trump politically.

My ego isn't resting on this, as it is with so many people who transfer their egos onto political parties and leaders like they do with sports teams and music idols-part of their identity. Fanaticism not rational thinking

[Beren]

Actually no.

I was sure about that.

[annatar1914]

I was sure about that.

I'm neither Liberal nor Conservative, but Socialist. I'm sure it must be emotionally gratifying to have an echo chamber at PoFo, indulging in wishful thinking and hearing only what other Liberals say, but I believe in the statement here;


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Especially the ''sensible and mutually respectful environment'' part.

[Beren]

it must be emotionally gratifying to have an echo chamber at PoFo, indulging in wishful thinking

I agree with that, some people's desperation is so palpable.

[Beren]

Especially the ''sensible and mutually respectful environment'' part.

You'll be respectfully ignored or ridiculed if Biden wins.

[late]

Currently, 82% want Biden to win, which sounds about right.

[Patrickov]

Do you think you've already reached the point when you should leave this place forever instantly if Biden wins?

PoFo is PoFo, the real world is the real world.

The only reason somebody should leave PoFo is that one finds no fun talking on PoFo.

I fail to see Member annatar1914 having this problem, and I highly respect his wisdom, even though I admittedly do not understand over half of his thoughts.

If he was to depart from PoFo it would be PoFo's loss, not his.

[ingliz]

I expect Trump will look like he's losing narrowly in the electoral college but challenge every mail-in vote through the state courts, appeal every judgement that doesn't go his way, and have the Supreme Court declare him the winner.

[Beren]

The only reason somebody should leave PoFo is that one finds no fun talking on PoFo.

I fail to see Member annatar1914 having this problem

Yeah, he'd probably enjoy PoFo even as a virtual ghost or phantom.

[Patrickov]

Yeah, he'd probably enjoy PoFo even as a virtual ghost or phantom.

As a matter of fact, I also fail to see the point of continuous posts of ridicule against him here.

[Rancid]

I expect Trump will look like he's losing narrowly in the electoral college but challenge every mail-in vote through the state courts, appeal every judgement that doesn't go his way, and have the Supreme Court declare him the winner.

He will certainly drag it out like hell.

[JohnRawls]

He will certainly drag it out like hell.

Depends on the size of the defeat. I think that Republicans will loose the Senate so it will be a landslide of sorts. Basically it might be unreasonable to dispute anything because it won't matter.