Pants-of-dog wrote:Right now, in the USA, there are people who justified locking children in cages because the kids were not from the USA. Is this sort of nationalism “extreme” enough to qualify as “neo-nazi BS”?
It's more complex than that. Their parents (or other adult they were with) broke the law by crossing the border without authorization. The law at the time, decided by the courts during the Obama era, said that it's inhumane to detain children indefinitely when they did nothing wrong (their parents did) where they can't go to school etc. So if the gov chooses to enforce the law at the border, the law said that children by law had to be separated from their parents if their parents were arrested and put in detention. Which is why there were photos of kids in cages during Obama admin too. Before this, kids and parents/guardians were kept in the same detention units, but immigrant rights groups wanted this overturned since they argued it wasn't fair to the children, and it was overturned.
This was not a "Trump policy" to put kids in cages. Their policy was to enforce the border laws to stop illegal crossings, which by necessity meant separating the kids and letting them stay with family etc that were in the US. The conditions for the detention for the kids, however, was not good, an the whole thing was a fiasco.
So the choices are: don't enforce border law, let illegal crossing continue & families stay together, or arrest people crossing & detain them thus separating them from their kids. Either way, bad stuff is happening. The Trump admin attempted to change the law after the fiasco.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/21/politics ... index.html
- "The Trump administration on Wednesday announced plans to end a decades-old settlement agreement that had set a 20-day limit for holding children and issue new regulations that could hold undocumented families detained together indefinitely.
The 1997 Flores v. Reno court agreement had set nationwide policy for the detention and treatment of minors in immigration custody.
It requires the government to release children from immigration detention without unnecessary delay to their parents, other adult relatives or licensed programs...
In 2015, US District Judge Dolly Gee ruled that Flores requirements apply to both unaccompanied minors and children apprehended with their parents. This means that all minors must be released from detention if possible, Meissner said.
The Trump administration has made repeated attempts to change the Flores settlement agreement, arguing that it hinders the government from deterring undocumented immigrants from entering the country.
Last year, the Trump administration was criticized for its "zero tolerance policy" that led to thousands of family separations at the US border.
To comply with the Flores settlement and criminally prosecute 100% of illegal border crossings, the Trump administration separated adults from the children with whom they had crossed the border -- detaining the adults in federal prisons while awaiting their criminal proceedings and sending the children to Health and Human Services' facilities and shelters.
After mounting criticism from the public and members of Congress, President Donald Trump issued an executive order reversing course to keep the families together."