wat0n wrote:Our contemporary notions of equality (and also of some identity classes) where nonexistent back in the time, including in the Ancient Greco-Roman societies.
I think a distinction has to made with out-group and in-group equality.
Out-group equality even today exists only as an abstract convention. People outside the group, whether that is citizens of a state, or members of a religion, or political kinsmen; are treated differently, universally.
In-group equality is ensured inside western secular states via legal institutions, the ancient democratic systems developed the legal profession, various court systems and concepts such as the presumption of innocence.
Western courts have been built either by integrating the ancient concepts of liberty, equality and democracy(isonomia, isegoria, isokratia) on a massive scale or in many cases wholly copy/pasting ancient systems, like Napoleon.
Equality, democracy and liberty, were the cries of the French when they overthrew the system and went secular. Their secularisation was wholly lifted from the Classics.
This is so well accepted that even Padilla does not dispute the veracity of the statement:
Padilla is wary of colleagues who cite the radical uses of classics as a way to forestall change; he believes that such examples have been outmatched by the field’s long alliance with the forces of dominance and oppression.
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