- 15 May 2024 16:40
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Well it's funny for me to just repeat the conversation which you should have understood the first time if you had any reading comprehension.
You mentioned a book (which of course I have read..my education does not come from youtube videos) and you said the book blamed jews for the excesses of capitalism.
I responded that no, the book was meant to explain that jews acquired disproportionate power via their control of money. This was an alternate hypothesis to weber's which was that jews acquired power simply because they were clever. In fact, the book doesn't even delve into any critiques of capitalism so it is rather silly to suggest it blames jews for them.
I even mentioned that in my own opinion many of the aspects of capitalism in the modern era were driven by necessity rather than jewish agendas. That was a point I disagreed with sombart on. So while I do think jews had massive influence over capitalism and finance, certain aspects like the stock market would have been developed even if aryans were in control rather than jews, because it simply becomes necessary.
.you responded no and just quoted some rabbi saying that sombart doesn't properly understand jewish psychology. Which of course isn't related to the point.
And even if you thought we were arguing over whether jews invented capitalism rather than over the goal of that book...which is also incorrect....a jew saying sombart doesn't understand jewish psychology is ALSO irrelevant to the claim. Even if we granted that your rabbi was totally correct and sombart doesn't understand jewish psychology, that would not demonstrate that jews did not invent capitalism.
You are just a comedy of errors.
ingliz wrote:@FiveofSwords
You are discussing the big Cs - Capitalism, Colonialism, and Christianity - and how they are connected, with @Pants-of-dog.
And this pops out...
This brought to mind Sombart, you countered with Weber, and I pointed out that Weber (unlike Sombart who let Deutschtum get the better of him) did not believe Capitalism is 'Jewish.'
So,
What is this point you thought we were discussing?
Reason for edits: To keep it short and simple. And that's not as easy as it looks (Note there's one difficult word). See I do think of you.
Well it's funny for me to just repeat the conversation which you should have understood the first time if you had any reading comprehension.
You mentioned a book (which of course I have read..my education does not come from youtube videos) and you said the book blamed jews for the excesses of capitalism.
I responded that no, the book was meant to explain that jews acquired disproportionate power via their control of money. This was an alternate hypothesis to weber's which was that jews acquired power simply because they were clever. In fact, the book doesn't even delve into any critiques of capitalism so it is rather silly to suggest it blames jews for them.
I even mentioned that in my own opinion many of the aspects of capitalism in the modern era were driven by necessity rather than jewish agendas. That was a point I disagreed with sombart on. So while I do think jews had massive influence over capitalism and finance, certain aspects like the stock market would have been developed even if aryans were in control rather than jews, because it simply becomes necessary.
.you responded no and just quoted some rabbi saying that sombart doesn't properly understand jewish psychology. Which of course isn't related to the point.
And even if you thought we were arguing over whether jews invented capitalism rather than over the goal of that book...which is also incorrect....a jew saying sombart doesn't understand jewish psychology is ALSO irrelevant to the claim. Even if we granted that your rabbi was totally correct and sombart doesn't understand jewish psychology, that would not demonstrate that jews did not invent capitalism.
You are just a comedy of errors.