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Pants-of-dog wrote:
Again, this is not a rebuttal to anything I have said.

I think it is clear that you have no logical rebuttal to my claims about liberal democracy.

If that's your definition of "liberal democracy", then it should be opposed in all of its forms.

Society needs to be governed by virtue, not the wants and whines of the mob and the morally degenerate things they idolize in substitute of having any higher power.

There's no "right" to have one's perversions catered to by the state, regardless of what they're permitted to do in their bedrooms or not; the state should play an active role in discouraging perverse behavior, not rewarding it.
#14744813
Pants-of-dog wrote:Your posts seem to be nothing more than an exposition of your personal beliefs and seem to be devoid of things like, facts, premises, and logic. Please let me know if you have an actual argument to share.

Already made one, straight couples produce children, homosexuals don't. Therefore the state doesn't benefit from homosexual marriages, so there's no reason for the state to incentivize them.
#14744827
Pants-of-dog wrote:Many straight couples do not produce children. Many homosexual couples have children. If the purpose is to incentivise child raising couples, then the sexual orientation of the couples is not relevant.

Apparently he has not heard of adoption (that is assuming he had a point with his argument which he doesn't). The irony if Joseph wouldn't adopted his bastard child then the religion he so much adores would not even exist today! the whole religion revolves about 1 adopted bastard child!

Besides although I dont believe in magic the OP seems to do. So if you believe in miracles (virgin birth) then you must admit it is technically possible that god might give miracle pregnancy to lesbian women or even gay men! Hey this is ridiculous but if you want to have ridiculous arguments you get ridiculous answers!
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XogGyux wrote:Apparently he has not heard of adoption (that is assuming he had a point with his argument which he doesn't). The irony if Joseph wouldn't adopted his bastard child then the religion he so much adores would not even exist today! the whole religion revolves about 1 adopted bastard child!

Besides although I dont believe in magic the OP seems to do. So if you believe in miracles (virgin birth) then you must admit it is technically possible that god might give miracle pregnancy to lesbian women or even gay men! Hey this is ridiculous but if you want to have ridiculous arguments you get ridiculous answers!

Gays ideally shouldn't be allowed to adopt children since it's an abnormal environment that might cause gender confusion.
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Scheherazade wrote:Gays ideally shouldn't be allowed to adopt children since it's an abnormal environment that might cause gender confusion.

Who are you to say gays are abnormal? I promess you for every "BAD" gay couple that adopts a child there are dozen of straight and WORSE couples that adopt a child.
So basically you are simply arguing for people to stop doing what you dont like. Otherwise known is "do what I like"....
Just out of curiosity where is your moral's manual?
#14744859
XogGyux wrote:Who are you to say gays are abnormal?

It's common sense, deviating from the natural environment that children are intended to be born in is dangerous.
#14744861
Scheherazade wrote:It's common sense, deviating from the natural environment that children are intended to be born in is dangerous.

Natural environment included wolves, tigers, lions, crocodiles, bacteria, contaminated water, insect plagues, diseases, and many many other things we now don't have to worry much about. We are so far from "natural environment" that you are not allowed to use that very very bad excuse. Do you prefer to live in the "natural environment" lets start by stopping using a computer, I bet computers and internet don't grow in trees.
And what do you mean "common sense" common sense implies that there is something in "common" and from what I have seen your views are 100% opposite from mine so there is nothing "common" about it.
#14744930
All human environment is natural to humans. We mold the environment. A city is a natural place for humans to dwell. Your version of "natural" is very UN-natural, Schezerade.

Absolutely no common sense is involved in your "argument", which is, as pants-of-dog mentioned, simply your own belief and opinion.
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From my more Marxist personal perspective , I would assert that the root cause of the baseness of American popular culture , as well as the societies of other developed capitalist countries is what we Communists refer to as bourgeois decadence . See under the prevailing social structure of the bourgeoisie sex is treated as a commodity . So subsequently sexual relations become dehumanized , and casual , rather than holding intimate personal meaning . If anyone is interested in a more detailed analysis I would suggest reading this articles . < https://www.marxists.org/archive/kollonta/1921/sex-class-struggle.htm , http://www.solidarity-us.org/site/node/1724 , http://prevos.net/humanities/sociology/pornography/ , http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/expatnews/6373531/Womens-love-lives-were-better-in-East-Germany-before-the-Berlin-Wall-fell.html >

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