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By Oxymoron
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Tewodros III wrote:True I do not care for whites bitching about not being the center of worship and I hate hypocrisy of western whites(Liberals and Regressive Right)


what hypocrisy do you see from the right?
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Oxymoron wrote:what hypocrisy do you see from the right?

Well for one thing ignorance. Not to mention you literally admit liking slave societies. "Our constitution was designed to defend western ideals, represented by elected aristocracy."
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By QatzelOk
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The aspect of "racism" that is offensive is the idea that..." the lifestyle and opportunity of an individual SHOULD BE determined by their ethnic background and genetic inheritance."

The "should be" is very important because racism is an ideology of shared values - of shared distrust in other traditions and tribes.

If I come off resenting Central Banks-Financial Hammer being the exclusive property (lifestyle, opportunity) of a few particular "races," this is actually anti-racist.

Decky wrote:Show me someone who does not dislike the French and I will show you a liar.

Oxymoron wrote:If you are not racist, then you are a liar. Tribalism is the most human trait of them all, the only difference between us and SS is extremity of our actions not our beliefs.

Tribalism is a natural human trait. But defining your tribe by "race" is a product of organized religion, monarchy, and modern propaganda. The tribes are now defined by the economic opportunities they have and the place where this economic "tribe" find themselves collectively on the socially stratified ladder.

In traditional societies, your "tribe" are simply the group of nomads you travel with and bare children with. Exclusive hoarding of trust funds, splashy Price-is-Right birthday parties and studying abroad for decades... are very far from the original purpose of tribalism.

Racism is the sick perversion of tribalism that is promoted and maintained by the 1%. In the Modern World, racism is fabricated by mass media and wars of choice.
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Drlee wrote:In order for the word "racist" to have any meaning at all it must refer to actions.


I think you may find that you are referring to racialism and not racism
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Tribalism is a natural human trait. But defining your tribe by "race" is a product of organized religion, monarchy, and modern propaganda. The tribes are now defined by the economic opportunities they have and the place where this economic "tribe" find themselves collectively on the socially stratified ladder.
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Somebody said something to me today that I couldn't help but agree with. "Whilst we may be genetically similar to an African tribesman, in reality we have as much in common as a Lion and an elephant do". For an indigenous British person to distance themselves from other nationalities is purely natural. Needless to say, we have moved forward now and attempt to communicate with people from other countries and cultures. That said, we must not forget where we have come from, and we should be tolerant of others who find it hard to adapt to a modern world.

Laws can be changed over night, attitudes can't !!
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Know It All wrote:Tribalism is a natural human trait. But defining your tribe by "race" is a product of organized religion, monarchy, and modern propaganda. The tribes are now defined by the economic opportunities they have and the place where this economic "tribe" find themselves collectively on the socially stratified ladder.


Somebody said something to me today that I couldn't help but agree with. "Whilst we may be genetically similar to an African tribesman, in reality we have as much in common as a Lion and an elephant do". For an indigenous British person to distance themselves from other nationalities is purely natural. Needless to say, we have moved forward now and attempt to communicate with people from other countries and cultures. That said, we must not forget where we have come from, and we should be tolerant of others who find it hard to adapt to a modern world.

Laws and legislation can be changed over night, attitudes can't !!
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By Oxymoron
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Tewodros III wrote:Well for one thing ignorance. Not to mention you literally admit liking slave societies. "Our constitution was designed to defend western ideals, represented by elected aristocracy."


Even if what you say is true... how is that hypocritical ?
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Blacks can't be racists, though.


Oh, yes they can!

In a state like WA where you see some wealthy Asians for example, you can find blacks visibly hostile towards them because they are jealous. I knew a Chinese woman in Seattle once. One day a black guy knocks on the door of her 500K house (it is probably worth 700K or more now) and he asks, "What did you do to afford this house?" She said, "I worked hard." He said he worked hard too. She looked down on him and he probably thought all Chinese women were snobs who thought they only had to work hard to get rich.
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MistyTiger wrote:Oh, yes they can!

In a state like WA where you see some wealthy Asians for example, you can find blacks visibly hostile towards them because they are jealous. I knew a Chinese woman in Seattle once. One day a black guy knocks on the door of her 500K house (it is probably worth 700K or more now) and he asks, "What did you do to afford this house?" She said, "I worked hard." He said he worked hard too. She looked down on him and he probably thought all Chinese women were snobs who thought they only had to work hard to get rich.


having worked in Brixton I can assure everyone that most racist people on the planet are Afro Caribbeans. I never get offended by anyone's prejudices, as I believe everyone has the right to dislike and like who they wish. In actual fact I respect anyone who can own up their prejudice. I have friend is openly racist, and especially hates Pakistanis. He has got genuine reasons for this, but I won't go into them. When he orders a cab he always asks for a white driver, he won't eat Asian food, and travels twice the distance to a supermarket because his local one has to many Asians working there. If nothing else, you have respect his honesty
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I was thinking this morning about how I do not see the racial divide in my day to day life. I then wondered if this is perhaps because I live in the Midwest. Do Midwestern values temper racial tensions? Politeness is still considered very important in the Midwest and is very contagious. Do you think encouraging these 'old fashioned' values could make a significant difference in our relations?
By Rich
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The left say they don't believe race exists. What they really mean is they don't believe the White race should exist.
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By Oxymoron
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Tewodros III wrote:You're saying all that freedom and democracy was a lie? That we shall bow to no kings, false?


Democracy is definitely a lie, more economic freedom and freedom of opportunity yes. Now Originally this was meant for White Christians, but it holds true today for other groups as well. Now the Black people, honestly the best revenge that your group can have is success and growth. Not shooting each other, rioting like animals, and blaming all Whites (Most of whom came after slavery was over, and many suffering racism themselves). If you want equality then look in the mirror and accept that fact.
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If we want to end racism we must end US global ambitions. Once America and England stop viewing themselves as the centre of global civilisation they will lose the imperative to make their societies exceptional. This will mean their compulsion to create raceless societies will end as will their obsession with race. Part of the reason why they are so race obsessed is because they feel like they are at the middle of an avant garde global project to create the perfect civilisation for all humanity. And once they lose their ethnocentrism they will start to see themselves in a new context that will help them to understand why their societies are so hyper racial. Ultimately there will need to be forgiveness and a moving on from the past. Hating whites for the past is still racism, despite what progressive American extremists like to claim.
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Oxymoron wrote:Democracy is definitely a lie, more economic freedom and freedom of opportunity yes. Now Originally this was meant for White Christians, but it holds true today for other groups as well. Now the Black people, honestly the best revenge that your group can have is success and growth. Not shooting each other, rioting like animals, and blaming all Whites (Most of whom came after slavery was over, and many suffering racism themselves). If you want equality then look in the mirror and accept that fact.

So it was as Lenin stated, freedom in bourgeois societies have been the same as it was in Greek and Romain societies, freedom for slave owners. You people talk about "We the People" but you Whites on the right will sooner throw each other under the bus than to eradicated poverty or homelessness. So no I blame you, cause at one point we did had jobs, we did had Black Businesses and Healthcare and less crime, but you people destroy all that through integration of this american society and republicans and capitalists not caring of american workers. The whole point of trump getting was to get jobs, which is the reason Blacks cause crime and government bring drugs in our neighborhoods destroying Black families. The thing is you wouldn't want Blacks to succeed cause it accomplish two things: Envy that a "N*****" does better than a White man and that it'll destroy that one thread of White supremacy narrative on Blacks that make them feel special. Why else would Capitalist Establishment try so hard to make sure Blacks in America stay in that folly, if they wanted to stop crime by rehab and bringing jobs in Black neighborhood. Not to mention prison is a business, so why end that?
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By Oxymoron
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Tewodros III wrote:So it was as Lenin stated, freedom in bourgeois societies have been the same as it was in Greek and Romain societies, freedom for slave owners. You people talk about "We the People" but you Whites on the right will sooner throw each other under the bus than to eradicated poverty or homelessness. So no I blame you, cause at one point we did had jobs, we did had Black Businesses and Healthcare and less crime, but you people destroy all that through integration of this american society and republicans and capitalists not caring of american workers. The whole point of trump getting was to get jobs, which is the reason Blacks cause crime and government bring drugs in our neighborhoods destroying Black families. The thing is you wouldn't want Blacks to succeed cause it accomplish two things: Envy that a "N*****" does better than a White man and that it'll destroy that one thread of White supremacy narrative on Blacks that make them feel special. Why else would Capitalist Establishment try so hard to make sure Blacks in America stay in that folly, if they wanted to stop crime by rehab and bringing jobs in Black neighborhood. Not to mention prison is a business, so why end that?


There will always be a slave and a master, not matter the system. The difference is the degree of slavery and mastery. As far as fixing homelessness,etc etc that can never be done, some people are just not meant for society. I agree integration was a big mistake, Lincoln should have just created a semi autonomous Black state out west after the civil war. Instead of letting the uneducated, angry former slaves loose into society. Even Moses had to make sure all born into slavery died prior to entering the Holy land. Also black man can do what better then whites? Only solution to better black lives is for blacks to stop blaming, and start doing.
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Oxymoron wrote:There will always be a slave and a master, not matter the system.

Then try being Blacks slave and see if you agree with that statement.
The difference is the degree of slavery and mastery. As far as fixing homelessness,etc etc that can never be done
That's parasitic talk one
some people are just not meant for society.
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agree integration was a big mistake, Lincoln should have just created a semi autonomous Black state out west after the civil war. Instead of letting the uneducated, angry former slaves loose into society.
Funny enough Radical Republicans did that and try to educated both Blacks and Southern Whites. Whites had their own chimpout and here we are today.
Even Moses had to make sure all born into slavery died prior to entering the Holy land.
That had to do with God punishment on the disbelievers not cause slavery and Moses died not getting into the land.
Also black man can do what better then whites?
Oh hell yes, they have and they can do it again.
Only solution to better black lives is for blacks to stop blaming, and start doing.
When will Whites stop blaming and start doing, the whole point of trump running was to put the blame on everyone [rule 3 violation deleted by PC] So it ok when whites do it but not blacks?
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By Oxymoron
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Then try being Blacks slave and see if you agree with that statement.

Meaningless words


That's parasitic talk one

Thank you for your opinion.


Like you.

I am ok with society, you the one complaining.

Funny enough Radical Republicans did that and try to educated both Blacks and Southern Whites. Whites had their own chimpout and here we are today.

What the fruit cake are you talking about?

That had to do with God punishment on the disbelievers not cause slavery and Moses died not getting into the land.

Reread it buddy.

Oh hell yes, they have and they can do it again.

Yes like in Zimbabwe lol, the whole black continent is a disease filled corrupt war torn hell hole. All Majority black countries, cities and states are disaster.


When will Whites stop blaming and start doing, the whole point of trump running was to put the blame on everyone [quote of rule 3 violation deleted by PC]. So it ok when whites do it but not blacks?


Every single group of Whites have it good including Irish, Russian Italian,even ALbanian, you blame dummies cant get your act together is your problem.
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Play basketball? Run the 100m? :lol:


Just because they needed that speed gene to outrun lions. :D

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