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Pants-of-dog wrote:Are you serious?

Did someone other than Trump ban Muslims? Or threaten sanctuary cities?

Or boast about sexual assault? Or pass laws saying women are owned by men?


The advertisers were free to act as they chose. They are responsible if their acts are divisive. To say a divisive act is not divisive because someone else did something divisive is grade school level arguments. The country has been overtaken by this level of debate and I am astonished so many intelligent people can not see how childish they are acting. If you are going to advocate divisiveness, then at least own it.
#14773057
Pants-of-dog wrote:Lol.

You are simultaneously complaining about how people are not owning up to their divisiveness, while excusing Trump's divisiveness.


Please show me where I excused his divisiveness? I have no need to excuse it since I condone it. The whole purpose of electing him was to demonstrate the divisiveness of the country concerning our current direction.
This does not excuse his opposition from being guilty of contributing to it. Clinton's entire campaign was based upon dividing the US into opposing groups. She and the Democrats are the ones who insist we are divided because it serves their purpose. Without divisiveness they would disappear as a political party. Trying to place the whole blame on Trump is absurd.
#14773063
:hmm: PoD is arguing like a wife-beater: "You made me do it! If you hadn't been so divisive, I wouldn't have been forced to beat people who agree with you with a shovel/post political ads for superbowl/etc."
#14773074
I think there's something of a gulf - logically and morally - between "beating your wife with a shovel and blaming her" and "expressing disagreement with the President of the United States' immigration policy via a TV commercial", Frollein.
#14773075
Trump is more divisive because Obama was a centrist compared to whom Trump seems to be an extremist. Obama also has a charming personality while Trump is offensive and eccentric. In my opinion Trump means to divide the nation actually, it's part of his strategy or tactics, but Obama wasn't like that.
#14773093
Heisenberg wrote:I think there's something of a gulf - logically and morally - between "beating your wife with a shovel and blaming her" and "expressing disagreement with the President of the United States' immigration policy via a TV commercial", Frollein.


I think you missed her point since a shovel was used to show disagreement with Trump. Besides, the discussions was not who was right or wrong, but who was causing divisiveness.
#14773102
Perhaps, but I thought the analogy was still a very poor one.

As for who is causing division - it's obviously caused by both sides to some degree. I'm obviously not an impartial observer, but the Republican party seems to me to have been far worse than the Democrats since Obama was elected. Almost immediately after he won, they began fearmongering and "protesting" in the most crude, childish fashion, as evidenced by those photos I posted on the previous page. You probably vaguely remember all the crap about Barack X, the Islamo-socialist Kenyan revolutionary who was going to take everyone's guns, make abortion a compulsory sporting activity and invade Texas before proclaiming himself King.

Couple that with all the obstructionism, brinkmanship and bald-faced lying by Congressional Republicans (case in point: the "Biden rule" rubbish they used to block Obama's Supreme Court nominee for a full year), and the crass belligerence of the Trumpers, and you get a pretty good picture of who's really being "divisive".
#14773104
As for who is causing division - it's obviously caused by both sides to some degree.


We can agree on this much.^ The level of each side will be determined by our views I suppose. I resented the Republicans for their obstructionism, but I find it difficult to compare that to actual riots in the streets. :hmm:
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anarchist23 wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5f6gMhVRx0w



The New York Times's



Strange game American football. A bunch of heavily clad blokes run on the pitch, the ref blows his whistle, somebody throws a ball to someone else, the ref blows his whistle again, and then there are 30 minutes of adverts. After the well earned break, another set of players come on the pitch, the ref blows the whistle, another man throws the ball to someone, and then there is another 30 minute commercial break. This goes on until the stadium runs out of hot dogs and popcorn, and one of the sides is declared Superbowl champion of the year.

Anyway, back to the subject in hand. Why is it acceptable for famous people to publicly stand up and tell everyone that they want the U.S to be totally inclusive, and all Muslims are wonderful piece loving people, but it is not acceptable for a superstar to stand up and tell everyone he is grateful to Trump for making some sort of effort to prevent terrorists coming into the country. MY GOD, I think the liberals are taking over.
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MistyTiger wrote:


Really? I want more pay than males. Since even in Hollywood, leading men can make 3 times more as leading females.


Woman are already getting paid more then men for the same work...
Hollywood and Sports aside.

When woman can dunk from free throw line, and be able to hold a mini-gun in their hands then they can get paid the same as men.

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