SolarCross wrote:This thread is really about the blue church vs red church
There is no "blue church" or "red church." This is rhetorical nonsense you invented to hold up the ridiculous premise that the American First Amendment should not only reverse meanings to interfere with religion, but interfere with your silly conception of what it feels like to have a political ideology.
the red church signal their virtue and tribal allegience by hating on "commies", a habit they probably picked up during the McCarthy period, while the Blues to distinguish themselves from the Reds wear a che t-shirt in college and pretend to care about some obscure oppressed tribe lost in the congo (is it?) called the proletariat or somesuch.
Or are you just explaining your sad feelings?
If you have no citations, how do you propose that the FBI, or whoever, regulate what people are interested in, "some obscure oppressed tribe lost in the congo [sic]?"
How do you think the census should measure how much someone, "hates on commies," so that we can reverse the First Amendment to comply with your sad feelings?
Your average red is literally nothing to fear from any commies, he will likely never even meet one in the course of his entire life while the blues will get a job with a fat salary on leaving college and spend the rest of his life eating artisan cheese, buying a private pension invested in the stock market and owning fashionable consumer electronics like the Iphone.
Are you saying that the First Amendment, then, should regulate, "fashionable consumer electronics like the iPhone," as a religious expression?
What exactly are you arguing in this thread beyond a big blubbering session about you being sad that you think one centre-right group is cooler than your centre-right group? Is this what you want the First Amendment to regulate?
Perhaps you could provide some case history in the courts and we can get a common law argument for why your feelings should be covered by the First Amendment?
It goes all the way down the line.. the Blue Church comes out against gun ownership, not because there is anything actually wrong with that, plausible arguments can be made either way but to select only one side in defiance of the opposite arguments is a matter of displaying tribal identity. The Blue Church signals against gun ownership only because the Red signal for it and in turn the Reds signal all the more loudly because the Blues signal against it.
Why should gun ownership be covered in the First Amendment when there's a Second Amendment?
Why, if you're being an originalist (and you kinda were), did the Founders include a Second Amendment if this is—according to you—something that the First Amendment should cover because feelings on gun ownership is a religious issue that needs to be covered?
Do you have any citations for this either?
But you only want to talk about Calvinism.. or sorry which cult was it again? oh right Marxism, because Calvinism, or whatever it was, is relevant to everything when you are a Calvinist.
See, this is exactly what I was saying. Marxism isn't a religion, and thus not covered by the First Amendment. No screaming through tear-filled eyes is going to change the fact that a political ideology is a religion that not only needs to be protected from state interference, but has to have the state come in and actually regulate everything so every political ideology is on equal footing.
As you, yourself, point out for some reason Marxism would be excluded from your completely bizarre assertion that the government needs to regulate political opinion so rightwingers will be less sad. If we were to apply the First Amendment in the way you seem to think it should be applied, it would also mean a state-sponsorship of Marxism because they are left behind in the cultural dialogue, as you yourself point out
But let's be honest—You're not even trying to make a logical argument about the First Amendment. This was just a thread created by one of your buddies so ye could have a safe space to feel your sad. You don't actually have any kind of logical argument. Just feelings...So many feelings...
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