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#14795299
I don't necessarily endorse Zero Hedge, but this is interesting:


Alarm within the U.S. intelligence community about Trump’s hasty decision to attack Syria reverberated from the Middle East back to Washington, where former CIA officer Philip Giraldi reported hearing from his intelligence contacts in the field that they were shocked at how the new poison-gas story was being distorted by Trump and the mainstream U.S. news media.


Former CIA officer Philip Giradi. (Photo credit: Gage Skidmore)

Giraldi told Scott Horton’s Webcast: “I’m hearing from sources on the ground in the Middle East, people who are intimately familiar with the intelligence that is available who are saying that the essential narrative that we’re all hearing about the Syrian government or the Russians using chemical weapons on innocent civilians is a sham.”

Giraldi said his sources were more in line with an analysis postulating an accidental release of the poison gas after an Al Qaeda arms depot was hit by a Russian airstrike.

“The intelligence confirms pretty much the account that the Russians have been giving … which is that they hit a warehouse where the rebels – now these are rebels that are, of course, connected with Al Qaeda – where the rebels were storing chemicals of their own and it basically caused an explosion that resulted in the casualties. Apparently the intelligence on this is very clear.”

Giraldi said the anger within the intelligence community over the distortion of intelligence to justify Trump’s military retaliation was so great that some covert officers were considering going public.

“People in both the agency [the CIA] and in the military who are aware of the intelligence are freaking out about this because essentially Trump completely misrepresented what he already should have known – but maybe he didn’t – and they’re afraid that this is moving toward a situation that could easily turn into an armed conflict,” Giraldi said before Thursday night’s missile strike. “They are astonished by how this is being played by the administration and by the U.S. media.”


They also cast doubt on the 2013 gas incident:

Though Bannon and Kushner are often presented as rivals, the source said, they shared the belief that Trump should tell the truth about Syria, revealing the Obama administration’s CIA analysis that a fatal sarin gas attack in 2013 was a “false-flag” operation intended to sucker President Obama into fully joining the Syrian war on the side of the rebels — and the intelligence analysts’ similar beliefs about Tuesday’s incident.

Instead, Trump went along with the idea of embracing the initial rush to judgment blaming Assad for the Idlib poison-gas event. The source added that Trump saw Thursday night’s missile assault as a way to change the conversation in Washington, where his administration has been under fierce attack from Democrats claiming that his election resulted from a Russian covert operation.


EDIT:

From Ray McGovern, who chaired the US National Intelligence Estimates and prepared the President’s Daily Brief in the 1980s

...the Syrian government carried out a conventional attack on the Islamist rebels and hit a chemical storage warehouse, which caused these fatalities.


If this scenario is accurate, then Trump just seized on an opportune occasion to confront the Russians in Syria, and possibly pump up his poll numbers.
#14795411
Political Interest wrote:And who actually does benefit?

I don't recall my bank account filling up with thousands of dollars when Gaddafi was overthrown. In fact the cost of living has only gone up since that time.


Oil companies and banks. That's all that matters to Western media serfs like us.
#14795414
QatzelOk wrote:Oil companies and banks. That's all that matters to Western media serfs like us.


How, specifically, does this type of action benefit oil companies and banks?

There has to be something else going on. The Syrian oil industry, while important to the local economy, plays virtually no role in international oil supply (.5%). If it were just the oil, the US and Europe could buy it far more cheaply than the cost of controlling it directly through military intervention.

This is another case of intervention not benefiting either the citizens of the attacking nations or even its elites. What you fail to address is the impulse toward destruction which is irrational at its core.
#14795417
BREAKING: Dramatic Escalation in Syria

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According to Inside Syria sources, Moscow has taken measures to guarantee additional security for Russian troops stationed in Syria to prevent damage from a possible attack with regards to the recent U.S. Tomahawk air strikes on the Shayrat air base on April 7.

At this moment, two Russian all-purpose jets capable of spotting and intercepting cruise missiles are barraging in the Eastern Mediterranean. Moreover, the Russian forces are ready to carry out retaliatory strikes against the U.S. ships if they launch cruise missiles at the Russian military objects including the Hmeimim and Tartus bases.
In addition, the Russian military advisors have been stationed have been stationed at the positions of all of the Syrian anti-aircraft defense systems to assist the Syrian army in intercepting cruise missiles.
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quetzalcoatl wrote:How, specifically, does this type of action benefit oil companies and banks?

Are you really unaware of the pipeline politics that preceded the Western media hate of Bashar Assad?

If so, just google it. Or go here:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-2 ... ria-4-maps
And then look at this map:
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Oil supply isn't just about supply (bombing Iraq and Libya). It's also about supply routes (bombing Syria and Afghanistan).

Most of the West's wars since WW2 (and including a lot of WW2) have been about supply chains for the resources that Western industrial giants require to make a profit.

Supply chain management is also what drove the early american settlers to genocide a hundred cultures in North America.
#14798698
Since the question is here:

ISIS probably has chemical weapons to and is able to use them and perhaps has used them. It's possible Assad and ISIS have traded blows by chemical weapons several times without it finding its way into the media. When your opponent has these weapons and uses them, it is really hard not to retaliate.

Then again it could also be a false flag or secondary release. See Bari bombing, 1943.
#14798708
It was faked. This is how the US operates, now.

MIT Expert, Fmr DoD Science Advisor Release Damning Report: “Syrian Gas Attack Was Staged”
“The explosive acted on the pipe as a blunt crushing mallet,” Postol said. “It drove the pipe into the ground while at the same time creating the crater.

“Since the pipe was filled with sarin, which is an incompressible fluid, as the pipe was flattened, the sarin acted on the walls and ends of the pipe causing a crack along the length of the pipe and also the failure of the cap on the back end.”

As the IB Times points out, Postol, formerly a scientific advisor at the Department of Defense (DoD), has previously outlined similar inconsistencies with US intelligence reports. Following the 2013 chemical weapons attack in eastern Ghouta. Postol again said the evidence did not suggest Assad was responsible – a finding that was later corroborated by the United Nations.

After easily blowing apart the official narrative on the alleged attacks, Postol’s new report goes on to call attention to the politicized aspect of the intelligence findings.

Postol said: “No competent analyst would miss the fact that the alleged sarin canister was forcefully crushed from above, rather than exploded by a munition within it.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/mit-ex ... as-staged/
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