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#14919197
Sivad wrote:I don't hate the poor, I hate people in general. I just don't idealize or romanticize the poor, I recognize them for what they are. They're not the victims of history, there are no victims in history, they're just weak and stupid. Have you ever been around poor people? They do the same shit to each other that the rich do to all of them. If they weren't such ignorant, petty little simpletons they could take over the world. The fact that they haven't tells me all I ever need to know about them.


Aw hell, Sivad. There are no victims in history. Lol. Ok. You hate all humanity equally. Alright.

I like people. If you like them? You don't throw everyone into one big pot and call it a day. I don't.

I will throw you into the gulag....of Grumpy Men who did not like humanity. Poor people weak and stupid. Rich people arrogant and stupid and powerful. Everyone? Stupid and weak.

It never ceases to amaze me how many cynics one finds in these fora. :lol:

You won't change anything Sivad. Guaranteed. Don't care about people? You are not going to change shit. Good luck writing lines about not caring.

I think someone needs to build a gulag for people who hate on all humanity in equal measure.

I am inspired by you Sivad....a Spanish rap for you:

Sivad el cinico.
El es clinico.
Todos son estupidos.
Y no soy musico.

Los odio todos por igual,
No me importa la humanidad,
Tira los que son pobres al managual,
Y olividate de la equidad.


CORO

Sivad, no le importa na'
Y no tiene una bemba colora'
Que se vayan los llorones pa'l cara'
Que amar la humanidad no esta en na'

Big percussion and repeat the CORO.... :lol: 8) :lol: :p
#14919452
Pants-of-dog wrote:You can’t even define it.

:knife:

Tony Montana defines gulagism:



They tell you all the time what to do, what to think, what to feel. You work eight, ten fucking hours. You own nothing. You got nothing. chivato on every corner, looking after you, watching everything you do, everything you say.
#14919465
Sivad wrote::knife:

Tony Montana defines gulagism:



They tell you all the time what to do, what to think, what to feel. You work eight, ten fucking hours. You own nothing. You got nothing. chivato on every corner, looking after you, watching everything you do, everything you say.


This is also not a definition.

And it also does not describe either Cuba under Castro or Chile under Allende.

Here, let me give you an example:

Chile under Pinochet was a right wing authoritarian state, and a military dictatorship.

Please note the lack of emotional language and the use of commonly accepted terms.
#14919590
Sivad wrote:I get why gulagists don't like being called out for what they are, but it does accurately convey the stark reality of totalitarian collectivism. If you don't like being called a gulagist then just stop supporting gulagism.


Your incorrect assumptions about me are not an argument, nor are they magically capable of making gulagism more than just a word you toss around when feeling emotional.

Let us try this a third or fourth time: was Chile under Pinochet a gulagist state?

Does the existence, or lack thereof, impact whether or not a state is a gulagist state.

Please note that if you ignore these questions yet again, you will be supoorting my claim that gulagism is a meaningless term you invented for the purpose of ad hominems.
#14919771
Quoting commercial media, Sivad wrote:They tell you all the time what to do, what to think, what to feel. You work eight, ten fucking hours. You own nothing. You got nothing. chivato on every corner, looking after you, watching everything you do, everything you say.


They tell you all the time what to do, what to think, what to feel.
Capitalist countries have the best brainwashing techniques ever invented. You don't even notice yourself being brainwashed by commercial media. Letting American propaganda into France was one of the conditions of the Marshal Plan after WW2.

You work eight, ten fucking hours.
This sounds like capitalist sweatshops. Or farmwork. Nothing to do with communism or any other system. They can all favor long hours.

You own nothing
False. But you own less, and share more under communism. This is a fact.

chivato on every corner, looking after you, watching everything you do, everything you say.
I saw almost no security cameras in Cuba, and much less use of social media (which is spied on by Western capitalist countries and corporations).
...

Maybe Hollywood entertainment isn't the best place to find political philosophy?
#14919785
Pants-of-dog wrote:Your incorrect assumptions about me are not an argument


It's not an assumption, you've been defending gulagism for like 30 pages of thread now. You're obviously a gulagist, you just don't like the term because it's unflattering. Gulagists can't call themselves what they are, nobody would want anything to do with them because gulagism is reprehensible. So they have polish up that turd with bullshitty labels like "Marxist-Leninist" or just pretend to be socialists. But they're not fooling anybody who doesn't want to be fooled, the only people they've ever managed to hoodwink are desperately impoverished illiterate peasants.
#14919788
QatzelOk wrote:They tell you all the time what to do, what to think, what to feel.
Capitalist countries have the best brainwashing techniques ever invented. You don't even notice yourself being brainwashed by commercial media. Letting American propaganda into France was one of the conditions of the Marshal Plan after WW2.

You work eight, ten fucking hours.
This sounds like capitalist sweatshops. Or farmwork. Nothing to do with communism or any other system. They can all favor long hours.

You own nothing
False. But you own less, and share more under communism. This is a fact.

chivato on every corner, looking after you, watching everything you do, everything you say.
I saw almost no security cameras in Cuba, and much less use of social media (which is spied on by Western capitalist countries and corporations).
...

Maybe Hollywood entertainment isn't the best place to find political philosophy?


BRAVO Q!! That is exactly right. But they think they live in freedom when that Snowden guy even said they are recording people in their own bedrooms without their consent? It is bad propaganda mierda is what they have for freedom.

I wish I had millions for film productions. I would not put some pervert like Harvey Weinstein producing them. I would put a very intelligent man of great originality and a lot of free thought....to produce the films. YOU. ;)
#14919791
Sivad wrote:...defending gulagism ...

Haiti is an excellent example of an everyday American gulag.

The country is invaded and terrorized by Westerners on a regular basis so that Walmart can have its golf balls made there by workers making 44 cents per hour.

Most of Latin America is a USA gulag. (but not Cuba)
#14919794
Sivad wrote:it's called Earth. :lol:


No Sivad. Hating on people and not caring doesn't help Earth or anyone really. Lol.

What keeps things going in this world? Is caring and loving and working and sacrificing.

The responsible parent, the child who loves and learns empathy. Why do parents want to protect their child's innocence so much in childhood? Because if you do? They have a lot of patience and they tolerate and they give. If you give? You are a very great human being.

If you take and are cynical? You bring unhappiness to many.

How many people can you love in this life? It depends on how many people loved you and cared for you....it is like that song.....the love you make is equal to the love you take. That is the truth of it.

You won't be taking much love with you with that cynical stuff you believe in Sivad.

Haven't you ever been in love? You don't even feel like you are living on Earth anymore.....you are flying....above it all....free and happy and joyous....it is the best feeling in the world. It is a great thing.

I hope you get that feeling someday Sivad. I hope someone inspires that in you. ;)
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