[Suntzu]

Is a 13 year old willing screwing some old guy the same as a guy attacking a hapless woman ripping off her clothes and brutually having sex with her? We used to call what happened to the first one statutory rape and the second forceable rape. They are obviously different. The innocent 13 year old had already been fucking here 17 year old boyfriend. Was that rape, too?

[Godstud]

@Suntzu Yes. It is rape, even if you can't comprehend that.

[colliric]

Is a 13 year old willing screwing some old guy the same as a guy attacking a hapless woman ripping off her clothes and brutually having sex with her? We used to call what happened to the first one statutory rape and the second forceable rape. They are obviously different. The innocent 13 year old had already been fucking here 17 year old boyfriend. Was that rape, too?

Yep. Both are rape.

Both are different types of it though.

A 13 year can be easily manipulated into "agreeing" and being "consentually" abused by an Adult.

It is a non-violent form of rape.

It was considered undesirable behaviour as far back as medieval times, though technically legal at the time. That's the real reason why Parents often arranged marriages in those days. Often to protect the child from being manipulated into legally stating they were married to a far older person whom had psychological power over them. Ensure they married someone more age ppropriate (even if it was an 18 year old marrying a 12 year old girl still better than a 45 year old man) or that was a trustworthy friend.

All that was required for a legal marriage is for both Bride and Groom to say they were married. So parents had to help their children marry responsibly.

[Suntzu]

So when someone kills a person while driving drunk we call that murder, well a non-violent form of murder called man slaughter or negligent homicide. Mark Twain said, "If you call a dog's tail a leg, how many legs does he have?"

[Godstud]

They do not call it a non-violent form of murder.

They base the crime on intent. Premeditated murder vs accidental/unintentional death.

The more you talk, the more I truly believe that your claim to high intelligence is so much BS.

[Suntzu]

So when she was fucking her 17 year old boy friend, that was rape. too.

Are we going to call it voluntary rape or maybe friendly rape?

[Godstud]

Do some reading instead of making monumentally stupid posts about rape, and trivilializing it.

This particular issue is one of the reasons why the Torrington story, and many like it, is so stomach churning. Much of the bullying directed at the victim revolved around the fact that she “asked for it” by apparently having agreed to sex. While the details of the sexual encounter have not been made public, and so it is unclear whether or not she was a willing participant, the question remains: Are statutory rape laws necessary, and are they fair?

The short answer is yes, of course. Statutory rape laws are absolutely necessary and exist to protect victims in just these kinds of situations — cases in which there is a major imbalance of power, and in which so-called willingness does not change the fact that the victim has been violated, physically and emotionally, by people who should have known better, and who are in fact legally responsible for knowing better.
https://mic.com/articles/38117/torringt ... .FEmWMOTMY

Of course, you can continue on with your sub-moronic trolling @Suntzu, but it makes you look like an ignorant asshole with no human empathy. If that's what you're going for, then power to ya.

[Suntzu]

We need to make sexual activity by teenagers illegal. It certainly worked to keep teenagers from drinking alcohol.

[skinster]

[Crantag]

I just wanted to say that the media's shaming of and attempting to humiliate Shawn White, who won a gold medal at the Olympics in snowboarding men's halfpipe, was despicable and disgusting.

Shawn White is guilty of being sued over sending 'lewd text messages' to a girl, which included dick picks, though I don't think these included his own dick.

It seems dumb, but I don't think it seems all that bad. The guy has also been a professional skateboarder and snowboarder since he was a kid, and so it's a fair question to at least consider whether the girl was after money. I frankly don't care enough to research it and I don't think it's worthy of it, but it struck me as a case of the media pandering to a coercive fringe group, who they are afraid of being hounded by, if they do not make knee-jerk character assassinations, because "we have to believe the accusers".

[Decky]

I recon sending unsolicited pictures of your genitals to other people is a bad idea. Then again I had a proper upbringing, right wing people must be raised by animals out in the forest or something. They certainly seem to have a problem with conforming to normal social standards.

[Crantag]

I recon sending unsolicited pictures of your genitals to other people is a bad idea. Then again I had a proper upbringing, right wing people must be raised by animals out in the forest or something. They certainly seem to have a problem with conforming to normal social standards.

Not here to go on a limb for the guy, but the media acted stupid as hell, and it was obvious they were abiding by the "we must believe the accuser" stuff, and applying this in a rather inappropriate manner.

The suit was also mostly about money in an explicit sense, as she claimed he owed her money for being a drummer in his band or some shit. Anyway I think it was sending her porn actually, and she sued the rather successful pro athlete on an employer misconduct basis.

He wasn't accused of grabbing her by the pussy or anything of that kind.

[Decky]

Not here to go on a limb for the guy, but the media acted stupid as hell, and it was obvious they were abiding by the "we must believe the accuser" stuff, and applying this in a rather inappropriate manner.

The suit was also mostly about money in an explicit sense, as she claimed he owed her money for being a drummer in his band or some shit. Anyway I think it was sending her porn actually, and she sued the rather successful pro athlete on an employer misconduct basis.

He wasn't accused of grabbing her by the pussy or anything of that kind.

Ah so he is an evil capitalist shit refusing to pay someone their wages. He belongs on the snow if you ask me, but not in a sporting way.

[Crantag]

Ah so he is an evil capitalist shit refusing to pay someone their wages. He belongs on the snow if you ask me, but not in a sporting way.

Well, he's a snowboarder, not exactly a nascar driver not paying his pit crew.

She got paid off like she wanted and he gets shamed by the media for winning a gold medal, because of a whim.

The social justice warrior shit is like the cultural revolution shit.

I know you are chatting shit but that's why I'm an anarchist.

[Decky]

It is a shame she had to go to such lengths to get her rightful wage, still at least the capitalist thief has learned his lesson about not paying people. It is a shame he wasn't forced to pawn his medal.

[Crantag]

It is a shame she had to go to such lengths to get her rightful wage, still at least the capitalist thief has learned his lesson about not paying people. It is a shame he wasn't forced to pawn his medal.

Yeah, because I'm sure she had a lot to do with his success on the slopes by participating in his garage band.

[Decky]

You ain't no anarchist, refusing to pay wages is slavery. People who refuse to pay wages to their employees belong in camps in Siberia. I am still owed one hundred quid from over a year ago for work I did building a house in Tamworth and when the revolution comes I will not hesitate to pass the employers name to Corbyn so he can have a long holiday in Siberia.

[Crantag]

You ain't no anarchist, refusing to pay wages is slavery. People who refuse to pay wages to their employees belong in camps in Siberia. I am still owed one hundred quid from over a year ago for work I did building a house in Tamworth and when the revolution comes I will not hesitate to pass the employers name to Corbyn so he can have a long holiday in Siberia.

Stop trying to change the subject.

I think she was most likely a dumb whiny bitch myself, but that's neither here nor there.

The point was that the media assaulted the guy based on a meme, and not based on anything at all concrete.

[Decky]

Who cares? Nobody cries any tears over the hardships of employers.

[Crantag]

Who cares? Nobody cries any tears over the hardships of employers.

The guy is a snowboarder and skateboarder. If he does have money, it's kind of the exception to the rule, but there's a decent possibility he has made a little bit of money, because he has been well known since he was a kid.

He's not exactly Mr. Walton, and--I'm just surmising as I don't know the situation--it's not unknown for leaches to try to suck off people with a little fame in their midst, because they are greedy fucks, and possibly tweekers or some shit like that.