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#15032507
QatzelOk wrote:Government-funding means that the media will favor the state which funds it.

Yes, that is the bias I was attempting to alert the dummies to.
#15034174
skinster wrote:https://twitter.com/SocialistFuture/status/1172795488275521536?s=20


Lol.....

Really?

The BBC has been "The official channel of the Labor Party" for decades now!
#15034441
^ IMHO Julian Assange either knowingly worked with the Russians et al or was using them all along, then he was about to reveal something about them, but they canned him.

Fromage was spotted visiting Assange in that embassy at one point.

That's how it seems to me anyway. I'd like to believe that he was using them all along.
#15034454
How is it absurd?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.zeit.d ... a-contacts

"It Was a Private Meeting with Assange"
Farage: No Russian money at all. That's ridiculous. What you are talking about is conspiracy. I never received a penny from Russia. I wouldn’t have taken it, even if it had been offered. This campaign wasn’t about money. It was about messages, good clear messages.

ZEIT ONLINE: Have you ever received external money for your political work?

Farage: No, of course not.

ZEIT ONLINE: You never received any money for your appearances on Russia Today?

Farage: Which I do twice a year. Or three times last year. I am doing global media. I am talking to you as well.

ZEIT ONLINE: Why did you meet with Julian Assange in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London?

Farage stops for a moment to think. Following his visit to the Ecuadorian Embassy not long ago, he told reporters directly after his meeting with Assange that he could no longer remember what he had done in the embassy.

Farage: Oh, for journalistic reasons.

ZEIT ONLINE: What? Because you want to write a story about the WikiLeaks founder?

Farage: For journalistic reasons. I will not say anything more about that. But I did it for journalistic reasons, not for political reasons.

Nigel Farage in his office in the European Parliament © Steffen Dobbert
ZEIT ONLINE: What do you mean when you say, "journalistic reasons?"

Farage: I will not say anything more about that. If you look at what I do today, I used to do politics 100 hours a week. But now I do politics for 40 hours a week, so I have got a lot of time to do other things. I am a Fox News contributor. I am an LBC presenter. I write.

ZEIT ONLINE: You have transformed yourself from a politician to an entertainer?

Farage: Perhaps.

ZEIT ONLINE: Entertainers tend to be paid well for the job.

Farage: Yes, some people really get paid for it.
Farage's press spokesman interrupts the interview. He says that the interview had actually been arranged to discuss trade relations between the EU and the UK. Neither he nor Farage, the spokesman says, want to talk about Farage's connections to the WikiLeaks founder or to Russia. Last summer, the platform published emails from Hillary Clinton, an event which had a significant influence on the U.S. presidential campaign. Assange and WikiLeaks are suspected of having connections to hackers in Russia. Farage, for his part, is an acquaintance of Donald Trump's and was the first politician to visit Trump following his election victory. Farage also has ties to Stephen Bannon, Trump's campaign manager and the former head of the pseudo-journalistic website Breitbart.


Assange willing to testify in congress

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.scmp.c ... ng-testify

The Mueller report supposedly contained references to him being a Russian agent, bits of which were partially suppressed.

Also..
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/04/ ... t-2-a65194

It would be naive to believe that Assange didn't either use world superpowers and then turn on them, or work for them all along.

There is no dishonour in what he did if he was just using them imho. It would make sense that they hung him out to dry after secretly squeezing the ecuadorians.

It's all very shady business whatever the truth is and no one comes out of it as a saint.
#15034870
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un2zXkM-03U

New Season of Amazon's Jack Ryan Focused on Venezuela Denounced as 'Over-the-Top and Ridiculous' US Propaganda
A new trailer out Thursday for Amazon's television series "Jack Ryan" featuring the titular hero racing against time to stop Venezuela from obtaining a nuclear weapon was widely ridiculed for its jingoistic nature and reliance on conspiracist tropes, with critics deriding the plotline of the new season of the nationalist series.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/ ... iculous-us

..........

What George Carlin Taught Us about Media Propaganda by Omission

“Here’s a partial score from the West Coast – Los Angeles 6.” - George Carlin joke
...
Bernie Sanders didn’t object in the debate when Joe Biden hung a price tag on Sanders’ “Medicare for All” plan of $30 trillion (over 10 years). Sanders responded by offering the other score: “That’s right, Joe. Status quo over 10 years will be $50 trillion. Every study done shows that Medicare for All is the most cost-effective approach to providing health care to every man, woman, and child in this country.”
...
As in the Carlin joke, I found many references to the partial score: the $30-32 trillion estimated cost of Sanders’ legislation. But not the other score: the more costly estimate of sticking with a system in which health insurance is provided by for-profit corporations.

I watched, for example, the next day’s in-depth report on CBS Evening News lasting a full two minutes. (That’s “in-depth” nowadays on nightly newscasts.) The $32 trillion estimate was prominent, but the other score was omitted – no estimate for staying with the status quo. When the report ended, anchor Nora O’Donnell accentuated the bias by saying: “That’s an expensive plan, Ed. Thank you.”
...
https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/09/19 ... -omission/

..........

In the first quote, we see how the mass media are funded,influenced, and do great service to... the other powerful institutions of society. They are not there to serve you and I, but to lie for the 1%.

In the second quote, we can see how how ommission is the preferred form of "ignorance manufacturing" of non-fiction. Once again, at the service of the 1%, and definitely not you or I.
#15034914
Here is some propaganda, facts, and fake news for Erin Burnett of CNN:

Ted Nugent: History will show that "I'm right"

CNN's Erin Burnett talk to Rocker Ted Nugent about his controversial comments and Republican party.
Published on Feb 24, 2014

Erin Burnett tells Nugent he must respect the President when it was a Democrat.

Erin Burnett: Lying not an issue for Trump
Dec 18, 2018


CNN's Erin Burnett discusses the importance of President Donald Trump's rhetoric as he prepares to visit El Paso, Texas, after a shooting massacre that killed 22 people.
Aug 6, 2019

What happended to her belief that one should respect the President when it is not a Democrat?

Trump supporter's claim stuns Erin Burnett
Published on Mar 14, 2019
#15035056
^^^

My favorite Erin Burnett li(n)e, uttered by her in the final seconds of the third video, is the following:

"I think we all agree that political violence is unacceptable and un-American."

:lol:

Yeah, what country has seen less political violence than the former land of 110 First Nations? All of the others?
#15036116
Presvias wrote:How is it absurd?


It's absurd because the Clinton emails were leaked, not hacked. If they were hacked, that would've been proven already, but the FBI took the servers and could've proven such, but didn't.
#15036180
skinster wrote:It's absurd because the Clinton emails were leaked, not hacked. If they were hacked, that would've been proven already, but the FBI took the servers and could've proven such, but didn't.

That is because someone used BleachBit to delete the files on the server.

Clinton emails wiped clean after NYT story
https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pr ... -nyt-story
#15036185
Presvias wrote:There is no dishonour in what he did if he was just using them imho. It would make sense that they hung him out to dry after secretly squeezing the ecuadorians.


Whatever else Assange may have done he gave the empire a black eye and that counts for a lot in my book. Anyone trying to paint the wikileaks guy as the villain in this world of gargantuan crime syndicates masquerading as legitimate states is just a fuckwitted asshat.
#15036368
Sivad wrote:Whatever else Assange may have done he gave the empire a black eye and that counts for a lot in my book. Anyone trying to paint the wikileaks guy as the villain in this world of gargantuan crime syndicates masquerading as legitimate states is just a fuckwitted asshat.


They're all villains, there are no heroes. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a really guileless abstraction-evader.
#15036379
skinster wrote::lol:
Maybe it was the Russians?

BleachBit "stifles investigation" of Hillary Clinton
08/25/2016

The IT team for presidential candidate Hillary Clinton used the open source cleaning software BleachBit to wipe systems "so even God couldn’t read them," according to South Carolina Rep. Trey Gowdy on Fox News. His comments on the "drastic cyber-measure" were in response to the question of whether her emails were simply about "yoga and wedding plans."

https://www.bleachbit.org/news/bleachbi ... ry-clinton
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