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Nine Palestinian civilians shot dead by Israeli army fire. What is the point of killing civilians?

Palestinian officials say 10 people have now been killed in a day of protest on the Gaza border, with nine shot dead by Israeli army fire and a farmer killed in a separate incident involving pre-dawn tank fire.

In what was the deadliest day for the ongoing conflict since clashes in Gaza last autumn, the Palestinian health ministry said at least another 1,000 Palestinians were injured by a combination of tear gas, rubber-coated steel pellets and live rounds.

Ahead of the start of a day of protests called by the militant group Hamas, a Palestinian farmer was killed by an Israeli tank shell as he worked in a neighbouring field, the ministry said.

Israel had bolstered its security at the border ahead of the expected mass sit-ins, which mark the anniversary of the Palestinians' "Land Day", and the start of a month and a half of demonstrations over lost land in Gaza.

The Israeli military said Palestinians rolled burning tyres and threw stones at Israeli forces who then retaliated with tear gas and fire at "main instigators."

Ahead of the protests, called for by Gaza’s militant Hamas rulers, Israel’s military said it doubled its standard troop level along the border, deploying snipers, special forces and paramilitary border police units, which specialise in riot control.

Hamas had said the activities would be peaceful and the chief Israeli military spokesman, brigadier general Ronen Manelis, said Israel wanted to avoid violence.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 81116.html
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15 Palestinians (including children) demonstrating peacefully in Gaza have been killed by Israeli snipers from the other side of border, and thousands have been injured by being shot at or experiencing Israeli chemical weapons. Again, Israelis kill imprisoned Palestinians as though they are fish in a barrel.

Israel continues to kill people in broad daylight, with complete impunity, and the fight for freedom by Palestinians will continue on. :hmm:
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Hey guys,
Listen i think you got some things wrong.
First of all the "peaceful" protest which was with rock throwing, tire burning, Molotov cocktail throwing is not as peaceful as the Palestinians claim it to be.
And think about it, out of 30,000 people who came to the protest most of them were unharmed in any way, yet those who were the center of incitement were neutralized.
You can't expect that out of 30 thousand people who are incited daily by Hamas there will not be at least some 1000 or 2000 people who will be violent.

This only proves that the IDF truly shot at those who have threatened a danger to Israel's sovereignty.

So yeah, don't forget that when the media says 16 civilians were killed in an peaceful protest, they "forget" to say that they are maybe Hamas members who threw rocks and burned tires and rolled them to the border.

We all around the world should know and act against Hamas which format care for the Palestinians in Gaza. It cares about destroying Israel.
Whether it's this protest or investing 3,000,000$ in one terror tunnel instead investing in schools infustrcutre hospitals or houses
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layman wrote:Burning tyres sound terrifying indeed.

Btw riot police all over the world have to deal with rocks And Molotov cocktails. They manage this with sticks and shields.
Yes you are right, but I think you're making this a bit disproportinoal

Think about it, there are thousands of armed Hamas members too in there, that's one thing.
Second thing, in order to make this happen, with shields and sticks, you need to get in to Gaza strip which is separated by a border.
If you enter with troops it means an all out war so that's not an option because it's not useful to any of the side.

I really recommend that you go on YouTube and see how it looks like cause I think you imagine it differently than it is.

Btw thanks for the correction 'tyres' instead of 'tires'
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lol, burning tyres? :lol:

In here we burn tyres block roads and throw rocks for minor things like power shortage and extension of exam dates but no one has gotten shot for it yet.. May be if the so called security forces were not complete cowardly pussies, then like most of the world they can avoid shooting people who are burning tyres.
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fuser wrote:lol, burning tyres?

In here we burn tyres block roads and throw rocks for minor things like power shortage and extension of exam dates but no one has gotten shot for it yet.. May be if the so called security forces were not complete cowardly pussies, then like most of the world they can avoid shooting people who are burning tyres.
Well first of all i have to ask
Where are you from

Second of all
You have to understand that Hamas the terrorist organization who controls the Gaza strip seeks to destroy Israel.
I guess that when you ( wherever you are ) protest you don't shoot missiles at civilians, you do not build tunnels under houses in order to kidnap people and you don't declare publicly every time that you want to kill and destroy every Israeli ( or in your case you opposing side )

So the situation is different and must be addressed differently.
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I don't see anyone with missiles in that photo, plz share the relevant information. Someone from Palestine once fired a missile which obviously means Israeli forces are to assume that all Palestinians are carrying missiles with them all the time, am I right or what?

Seriously I can't believe people are even trying to justify this mass murder and then we wonder how can a group of people allow their government to commit genocide, its hardly surprising.
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fuser wrote:I don't see anyone with missiles in that photo, plz share the relevant information. Someone from Palestine once fired a missile which obviously means Israeli forces are to assume that all Palestinians are carrying missiles with them all the time, am I right or what?

Seriously I can't believe people are even trying to justify this mass murder and then we wonder how can a group of people allow their government to commit genocide, its hardly surprising.
Well I think you have it wrong my friend.
Yes, Hamas hasn't fired TODAY a rocket but I am really not sure about exact numbers. But since Hamas started to rule in Gaza it has fired tens of thousands of missiles towards Israel.

You say mass murder.
The idf is one of the best armies in the world, do you really thing that by killing people who threat Israeli troops and sovereignty is mass murder ?
If we wanted to kill and murder it's possible
But we don't want it of course
Killing innocent people is a crime.

Look at the case of a soldier named El'or Azaria who killed a Palestinian terrorist after he was already neutralized.
The terrorist in Hebron had stabbed 2 soldiers (or 1 I don't remember) and then some other soldiers shot and neutralized him ( didn't kill him). And then this soldier came and murdered the already laying on the ground ready to be taken to hospital terrorist.
He was convicted and he is now in prison.

This is a prove that Israel and the idf has no will to harm people more than they need to in order to keep civilians safe
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Ter wrote:I agree.
How dare those Israelis defend their borders.
They should have allowed the 30,000 peaceful Arabs to enter the country so they can sing Kumbaya and Hava Nagila together. No?
/s


Ugh, can't believe you are defending this act. I didn't think you were that bad.

This is a similar act to Bloody Sunday.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1972)
Except that was a massive thing in British history, still being apologized for. To Israel, it's a perfectly reasonable action.
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Seeker8 wrote:
Ugh, can't believe you are defending this act. I didn't think you were that bad.

This is a similar act to Bloody Sunday.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1972)
Except that was a massive thing in British history, still being apologized for. For Israel, it's a perfectly reasonable action.
What do you mean by that ?
That Israel is right by defending it's birders and sovereignty
Or
That Israel should let it's soldiers be hurt and borders to be crosses ?
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