- 04 May 2018 08:38
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All people are evil, at least in some ways. All men are potential rapists. Yes, obviously. But that proves what exactly ? We should kill all people ? We should castrate all men ? Obviously not. Just because people all have some evil traits doesnt mean that most people are mostly peaceful and benevolent. Just because some men are rapists doesnt mean most men arent, plus castration is kind of a drastic step anyway. We should give penalties to people if they do violate the law (including cases of rape), such that crime stays low and preferably lowers.
Likewise, a nation has a right to look after its own interests. Thats the point of having a nation in the first place. If a nation cant look after its own interests, it serves no function whatsoever and cannot protect its citizens from harm.
A nation that doesnt look after its own interests is like a person that has no natural egoism whatsoever and doesnt look after for example getting enough food. That person will starve to death unless some other person helps them.
Thus yes, to a nation the people who are member of that nation are more important than those people who arent. You can call that "racist". Its not at all, because racism is diving people into groups defined by arbritary criteria, such as skin color or religion or sexuality, and giving them priviledges or penalties just for that. The group defined belonging to a nation however isnt arbritary, its chosen for a logical criteria. And the priviledge given here is that the nation looks after their interests specfically, but the nation doesnt oppose other nations doing the same for their population.
Thus no, you're wrong.
For people natural egoism doesnt mean that greed is the only motive that drives people, even if capitalism keeps telling us this lie. Scientific studies show that empathy is probably our strongest single motivation; we feel with others.
And for nations looking after the interest of their citizens doesnt mean that they are racist per se.
Rich wrote:Nation states are inherently racist.OK, now you have my full attention and opposition.
All people are evil, at least in some ways. All men are potential rapists. Yes, obviously. But that proves what exactly ? We should kill all people ? We should castrate all men ? Obviously not. Just because people all have some evil traits doesnt mean that most people are mostly peaceful and benevolent. Just because some men are rapists doesnt mean most men arent, plus castration is kind of a drastic step anyway. We should give penalties to people if they do violate the law (including cases of rape), such that crime stays low and preferably lowers.
Likewise, a nation has a right to look after its own interests. Thats the point of having a nation in the first place. If a nation cant look after its own interests, it serves no function whatsoever and cannot protect its citizens from harm.
A nation that doesnt look after its own interests is like a person that has no natural egoism whatsoever and doesnt look after for example getting enough food. That person will starve to death unless some other person helps them.
Thus yes, to a nation the people who are member of that nation are more important than those people who arent. You can call that "racist". Its not at all, because racism is diving people into groups defined by arbritary criteria, such as skin color or religion or sexuality, and giving them priviledges or penalties just for that. The group defined belonging to a nation however isnt arbritary, its chosen for a logical criteria. And the priviledge given here is that the nation looks after their interests specfically, but the nation doesnt oppose other nations doing the same for their population.
Thus no, you're wrong.
For people natural egoism doesnt mean that greed is the only motive that drives people, even if capitalism keeps telling us this lie. Scientific studies show that empathy is probably our strongest single motivation; we feel with others.
And for nations looking after the interest of their citizens doesnt mean that they are racist per se.
Rich wrote:Particularly if the immigrants are Muslims because of their higher birth rate.Sorry but thats their free choice if they want to have children, and how many.
Suntzu wrote:Folks have a right to come to your county after they have screw up their own.Thats a very rare case, and whenever that happends, nobody complaints. Because such people are rich.
There's class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning. - Warren Buffett