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A rural American white guy talking about inter-city minorities has no reason to incentive to lie or spread propaganda.
Oxymandias wrote:@Suntzu
Do you have any statistics which prove that?
@One Degree
A rural American white guy talking about inter-city minorities has no reason to incentive to lie or spread propaganda. I think you shouldn’t be too quick to claim that otherwise upstanding people are liars or propagandists.
Minorities do not make up a majority of Democrats and most Democrats, like Republicans, are white. Cities are predominantly Democrats because of the culture of their white populations not due to the prominence of minorities.
Community outreach programs have failed to rejuvenate trust of law enforcement among minorities and it isn’t a major focus in American politics as of late at all.
To assume he is not only wrong but slander him as a liar or propagandist is disrespectful of you to your fellow human being.
Furthermore, the none of what he is saying is common at all. He isn’t saying that there are random shootings of blacks by cops every day, he’s explaining why minorities distrust cops and how rural Americans can relate to that. You’re blowing this out of proportion.
These people frequently believe that scientists are politically biased. Stop trying.
Except that this guy is coming into these beliefs by himself. He’s a white rural American who presumably is also a farmer. The society around him reinforces the same exact beliefs you hold. If he’s going to believe this stuff, he’s going to make up his own mind on it.
I’m not told anything. You’re told whatever stuff you think you’re told but I come to my own conclusions.
You honestly don’t have proof of that. Furthermore, you’re assuming that minorities are stupid and don’t know their own interests which is absolutely wrong. Even an idiot knows what is his best interests and minorities are far from being idiots. If you think that Democrats really care about holding corrupt cops accountable or helping minorities you clearly are too submerged in partisanship and ignorant on the actual history of the two parties of the US and their current agendas.
You don’t even have evidence of that. Furthermore your environment and your experiences are 100x different than an African American’s so implying that it’s basically the same thing is very disingenuous of you.
Oxymandias wrote:@Suntzu
Do you have any statistics which prove that?
@One Degree
A rural American white guy talking about inter-city minorities has no reason to incentive to lie or spread propaganda. I think you shouldn’t be too quick to claim that otherwise upstanding people are liars or propagandists.
Minorities do not make up a majority of Democrats and most Democrats, like Republicans, are white. Cities are predominantly Democrats because of the culture of their white populations not due to the prominence of minorities.
Community outreach programs have failed to rejuvenate trust of law enforcement among minorities and it isn’t a major focus in American politics as of late at all.
To assume he is not only wrong but slander him as a liar or propagandist is disrespectful of you to your fellow human being.
Furthermore, the none of what he is saying is common at all. He isn’t saying that there are random shootings of blacks by cops every day, he’s explaining why minorities distrust cops and how rural Americans can relate to that. You’re blowing this out of proportion.
Oxymandias wrote:@Suntzu
I doubt you do. Furthermore, most claims of cop killings (to my knowledge) don’t come from either of those cities.
Oxymandias wrote:
Racism is just as much of a product of class divide as any other disparity in our social structures. To imply that it is meaningless is to fail to address a fundamental insecurity in our society. You can't begin to address American class struggle without addressing racism towards African Americans. It is a complicated and difficult subject, but it is a topic worth discussing.
Baltimore is one of the top cities for racial unrest. I am starting to think you do not have a very clear picture of the US. I know Atlanta has a Black majority. I thought Baltimore did also, but not sure.
Even if that is true it doesn't matter because the solution is the same for racism and classism. Greater social, economic, and political enfranchisement for the poor and working class. Give people that and they'll take care of the rest.
Oxymandias wrote:@One Degree
Then I doubt that blacks have significant political influence there. Baltimore is also has high income inequality.
@Sivad
Except that if we don't address race then we just devolve our current society into a caste system rather than a society with fluid social mobility and no class distinction.
Oxymandias wrote:Except that if we don't address race then we just devolve our current society into a caste system rather than a society with fluid social mobility and no class distinction.
Zagadka wrote:These people frequently believe that scientists are politically biased. Stop trying.
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