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Patrickov wrote:Much of what you said is speculation or even assumption without proper proof. It is much better to focus on attacking the points she delivered (which you probably are already doing), rather than her behaviour that makes you believe she's either weak or misinformed.

I don't endorse her as well, for the problem is not that simple, and being Swedish means that she probably doesn't know there are nations or people who (still) have their livelihood depending on polluting or environmental unfriendly stuff. In some sense, if the like of Greta believe what they believe, they have to realise that they will need to walk over some corpses sooner or later.

So I must provide proper proof, while it is okay for Greta to rant and rave without proper proof. Okay. I must, at least, compliment her on learning to speak English.
Praise the Lord.
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I don't think that Greta played very well here in the US. She appealed to the usual kinds of people who fall for emotional manipulation but she also became a huge meme, and not in a funny good way like when Super Deluxe parodied Alex Jones.

Apparently, some anti-white racist liberals are even criticizing her because she is white!



It is a shame that these weird global warming cultists put her front and center to absorb all this trolling and criticism.

It has been so bad that had to get climate huckster Leonardo DiCaprio to come out and publicly shame the trolls during an appearance at a global warming cult meeting last night in NYC.

Leo DiCaprio Tells Haters to Stop Shaming Climate Activists Like Greta as They ‘Fight to Survive’

Oscar-winning actor Leonardo DiCaprio dedicated his appearance on the 2019 Global Citizen Festival stage on Sept. 28 to applauding the youth activists leading a global climate movement.

Millions of young people have been skipping school on Fridays to spur world leaders to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. They’re protesting to prevent catastrophic climate change, protect the world’s most vulnerable populations and habitats, and safeguard their ability to live fulfilling lives.

DiCaprio said that their activism gives him hope despite increasingly grim environmental trends and the false start of the Paris climate agreement, which hasn’t yet curbed the global rise of greenhouse gas emissions.

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In recent months, Thunberg has become the subject of intense ridicule by people who either deny the existence of climate change or insist it’s not a problem.

DiCaprio condemned the insults that have been thrown both at Thunberg — who, for what it’s worth, appears to shrug off trolling comments with preternatural calm — and the youth climate movement more broadly..

“As these young people have been standing up for their right to survive, surprisingly some have reacted to this movement with insulting tweets...from people who care more about profit and their own self interests than about your future," he said.

“But the fact is that the youth climate movement is more important than at any time in history and they need all of our support to become even stronger and more impactful," he added.
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Pants-of-dog wrote:You do know that some Pacific island nations are becoming uninhabitable because of sea level rise, right?


How do you know that it was the cause of man made climate change?

Hindsite wrote:It looks like it is way to late to reverse the global warming trend now. Our best bet is to get right with the Lord and prepare for the rapture of the church.
HalleluYah


1989 was also just two years after they stopped going on and on about the ozone layer. It seems like a never ending scam.
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maz wrote:How do you know that it was the cause of man made climate change?


Because we know that we have been adding significant amounts of greenhouse gases since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, and we know these warm up the atmosphere which in turn warms up the ocean, and we know water expands when it warms up, and this causes sea level rise.

1989 was also just two years after they stopped going on and on about the ozone layer. It seems like a never ending scam.


And through international agreements, we were able to significantly reduce ozone depleting gases and avoid major climate problems.

It would be great if we could do that again.
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So why are mostly uninhabited islands in the middle of nowhere affected but not in population clusters like London, Miami, New York, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Seattle, Venice ect? In fact, Venice and many other European cities recently had a drought!

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maz wrote:So why are mostly uninhabited islands in the middle of nowhere affected but not in population clusters like London, Miami, New York, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Seattle, Venice ect? In fact, Venice and many other European cities recently had a drought!

Half of those cities have constructed infrastructure to protect them from rising seas. New York hasn't (yet) and was devastated by Sandy.
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Floods in some places, droughts in others. You obviously don't pay attention.

I don't find this surprising in the least, of course.

Also, of course...
Low tides caused by the super blue blood moon, combined with a lack of rain, have caused water levels in Venice to drop by more than 60cm, beaching boats and gondolas. The city's canals have been turned into muddy channels by the rare weather phenomenon, which saw some waterways closed entirely.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 91581.html

This happened a year ago. Feb 2018.

Jan 2019
The death of Venice? City’s battles with tourism and flooding reach crisis level
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... d-flooding
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Godstud wrote:Floods in some places, droughts in others. You obviously don't pay attention.

I am saying you better pay attention and get right with the Lord and pray you are found worthy to be taken up in the rapture when Jesus returns for His church.
HalleluYah
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Godstud wrote:The Rapture.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

I am saying you'd best get your head out of your ass, if you believe that sort of claptrap.

It could be you that has his head up his own ass, if you don't believe you should get right with the Lord, regardless if you believe in the rapture or not.
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3000 deities and you think you've got the right one? :lol: Oh, the arrogance!

No thanks. I'll pass on fairy tales.
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Pants-of-dog wrote:You do know that some Pacific island nations are becoming uninhabitable because of sea level rise, right?

Please provide evidence for this claim. Thank you.
Pants-of-dog wrote:Because we know that we have been adding significant amounts of greenhouse gases since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, and we know these warm up the atmosphere which in turn warms up the ocean, and we know water expands when it warms up, and this causes sea level rise.

Non sequitur fallacy. You have incorrectly assumed that anthropogenic greenhouse gases are the only cause of climate change. There is no credible empirical evidence that they are even a significant one.
And through international agreements, we were able to significantly reduce ozone depleting gases and avoid major climate problems.

Again, that is pure supposition on your part. You have provided no credible empirical evidence for such claims, nor will you ever be doing so.
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Truth To Power wrote:Please provide evidence for this claim. Thank you.


We have already discussed this many times.

Non sequitur fallacy. You have incorrectly assumed that anthropogenic greenhouse gases are the only cause of climate change. There is no credible empirical evidence that they are even a significant one.


Since all the ideas flow logically from one to another, there is no non sequitur.

While I did not mention non-anthropogenic sources of greenhouse gases, their presence does not contradict the causal chain I described.

Again, that is pure supposition on your part. You have provided no credible empirical evidence for such claims, nor will you ever be doing so.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Protocol

    The Montreal Protocol on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer (a protocol to the Vienna Convention for the Protection of the Ozone Layer) is an international treaty designed to protect the ozone layer by phasing out the production of numerous substances that are responsible for ozone depletion. It was agreed on 26 August 1987, and entered into force on 16 September 1989, following a first meeting in Helsinki, May 1989. Since then, it has undergone nine revisions, in 1990 (London), 1991 (Nairobi), 1992 (Copenhagen), 1993 (Bangkok), 1995 (Vienna), 1997 (Montreal), 1998 (Australia), 1999 (Beijing) and 2016 (Kigali)[1][2][3] As a result of the international agreement, the ozone hole in Antarctica is slowly recovering.[4] Climate projections indicate that the ozone layer will return to 1980 levels between 2050 and 2070.[5][6] Due to its widespread adoption and implementation it has been hailed as an example of exceptional international co-operation, with Kofi Annan quoted as saying that "perhaps the single most successful international agreement to date has been the Montreal Protocol".[7][8] In comparison, effective burden sharing and solution proposals mitigating regional conflicts of interest have been among the success factors for the ozone depletion challenge, where global regulation based on the Kyoto Protocol has failed to do so.[9] In this case of the ozone depletion challenge, there was global regulation already being installed before a scientific consensus was established. Also, overall public opinion was convinced of possible imminent risks.[10][11]

I claimed that through international agreements, we were able to significantly reduce ozone depleting gases and avoid major climate problems.

The international agreement to which I referred is the Montreal Protocol cited.

It was effective. Ozone depleting gases were significantly reduced because of this.

The hole in the ozone layer is healing.
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