[Godstud]

Currently we are seeing a split between the true feminists and gay lesbian and LGBTQ communities. We are also seeing a split between the gay community and the trans community and its trying to divide the feminists.

Please provide a source for this claim, as I can hardly believe you have you finger on the pulse of those communities.

Also, this is completely off-topic.

[Beren]

A Stalin moustache might help I think.

Why don't you accept/admit you're gay?

[Finfinder]

Please provide a source for this claim, as I can hardly believe you have you finger on the pulse of those communities.

It's called being cultured and open minded you should try it and can you at least be a little more informed and educated before you cast aspersions and look crass. Try Google or something .

Also, this is completely off-topic.

you were the one to bring it up.

You can be very masculine and still be a feminist. If you think these conflict, then you don't understand what feminism actually is. Feminism is elevating women to an equal footing, not diminishing men..

Women's sports. There are many examples of trans people dominating women's sports, basically erasing women's history. There is a recent story I believe out of the UK about a trans cyclist dominating a competition look it up. It is not very difficult to surmise that not all feminist are supportive of the trans community and furthermore there is not a consensus on all subjects among the gay and trans communities.

[Agent Steel]

So, rather than trying to recover the thread by stealing someone else's thought, maybe you should just admit that you came into this thread with a half cocked thought that's not worth discussing. That's more honorable, and incidentally, more manly.

I am an honest man, and what I said is the absolute truth. I stand by my words.

1. You open the thread claiming leftist men have less 'masculine' physical features. Let's ignore the fact this is completely baseless, with no data, and only your own subjective experience. Even if you were on to something here, it doesn't align with point 2.

2. Political Interest makes a comment about how leftist of the past (really, just soviets), were in short, more working class, and more aggressive. I'm guessing he was implying they were "manlier"

3. Out of nowhere, you claim post 2, validates the thread you started based on post 1. This is bullshit of the highest order.

Your inability to connect the dots does not invalidate the logic of my claims. It is your problem sir, not mine.

Point 2 is an interesting speculative thought (that requires further discussion and objective data), point 1, is just random left field subjective bullshit (that requires objective data to maybe be interesting), and point 2 does not support point 1 in anyway. You claims of "logic" are bullshit. You are intellectually dishonest.

Point 2, which I should remind you, IS NOT YOUR POINT. Is a little more valid because it at least pulls in some historical context. There's at least a little something of substance there.

It's a point that has been well researched and sufficiently dialogued for years. You have not been paying attention to political discourse. That is not my problem.

[Rancid]

Your inability to connect the dots does not invalidate the logic of my claims. It is your problem sir, not mine.

It's clear that you, yourself cannot draw the logical connections, thus you are trying to cop out with such a statement. Help me see the logical connections, I'm asking you for help.

You have a responsibility to make sense when you say something. If it doesn't make sense or is in error, you have a responsibility to acknowledge it. Otherwise you're just being stuborn and dishonorable.

[Agent Steel]

It shouldn't have to be my job to explain very basic and obvious logic to you. If you don't understand something that's your issue, not mine.

Everything PoliticalInterest said served to substantiate my point. It's crystal clear.

For me to have to explain it is a waste of time.

[Rancid]

It shouldn't have to be my job to explain very basic and obvious logic to you. If you don't understand something that's your issue, not mine.

Everything PoliticalInterest said served to substantiate my point. It's crystal clear.

For me to have to explain it is a waste of time.

Cop out. You have nothing.

You cannot connect a man's jaw line to PI's post. plain and simple.

[Potemkin]

[Beren]

You really can't complain, Comrade @Potemkin, even Stalin's mustache got approved.

[Tainari88]

Beren, I wondered about Agent Steel for sure.

Masculine Leftist? Lol.

You can be a Leftist and be a man.....no contradiction in that at all.

@Potemkin you know you are the most bellisimo, sweetest, handsomest, most adorable creature in PoFo and in many other places....

You aint a girly man....I know that for sure!

Who is the international socialist that you most love on PoFo eh Potemkin?

Who is the communitarian humanist socialist who you like the most? Admit it.....

[Rancid]

Who is the communitarian humanist socialist who you like the most? Admit it.....

Himself.

[Tainari88]

Himself.

Let him answer. Hee hee.

I got to quit this here writing on PoFo.

It takes up too much time.

It is your fault Rancid. I like you too much!

You masculine not-quite-defined-one.......lol.

[Beren]

Beren, I wondered about Agent Steel for sure.

He should really be a Stalinist if he likes mustache, masculine leftists, and steel so much.

[Potemkin]

Beren, I wondered about Agent Steel for sure.

Masculine Leftist? Lol.

You can be a Leftist and be a man.....no contradiction in that at all.

@Potemkin you know you are the most bellisimo, sweetest, handsomest, most adorable creature in PoFo and in many other places....

You aint a girly man....I know that for sure!

Who is the international socialist that you most love on PoFo eh Potemkin?

Who is the communitarian humanist socialist who you like the most? Admit it.....

Lol. It's you, Tainari! You cutie-pie, you!

[Tainari88]

Lol. It's you, Tainari! You cutie-pie, you!

Of course it is!

Man of Steel sounds like Superman.

All I know is the Scottish man from Edinburgh is the most beautiful creature in all the world.

I vote for you as the most masculine Leftist commentator in this forum.

Tainari casts her vote:

1. Most gorgeous Leftist in PoFo. Potemkin.

2. Best joker and prankster on PoFo. Rancid.

3. Most vain dude in PoFo. Agent Steel.

4. Most fiery and emotional and direct in opinions? Godstud.

5. Most fake Christian. Hindsite.

6. Most passionate about their perspectives. Skinster.

7. Most non judgmental and fair. Red Army.

8. Most stealthy and plotting behind closed doors. SolarCross.

And the list goes on.

Crantag wrote a post that was something I will treasure forever about language and learning and life. I loved it.

[QatzelOk]

Why don't you accept/admit you're gay?

This is an example of the kind of smear that used to silence leftists at an earlier moment in Christian répression.

Today, you.have to get vidéos of leftists sleeping with teens and share them with the Mossad or CIA.

The Powers that ne find it easier to just fund unattractive leftist pseudo-leadership.

[Sivad]

[Agent Steel]

Cop out. You have nothing.

You cannot connect a man's jaw line to PI's post. plain and simple.

Political Interest made about half a dozen points that logically connect my idea. Let's see...

-Aggression: The facial features I described are a result of high-t, and high-t is directly correlated with aggressive behavior.

-Hard Work: Liberals have a reputation of acting entitled to have more than what they have worked for. This is a common point of political discourse.

-Heavy Lifting: Larger muscles increases testosterone levels and creates a more masculine image, in both the body and the face.

-Fighters: The same masculine traits that create harm are the ones that create protection. Wars are fought to prevent greater atrocities.

You rather remind me of this guy I recently debated on FB, who, even after I went out of my way to give him clear and undeniable facts, he still persisted to dishonestly rationalize and reject them. He also was the first to resort to personal attacks out of frustration and lack of civility.

I cut that guy off. The irony is that I can think of no more a perfect term to describe the guy than "toxic", yet here he was, a liberal SJW, like you, railing off about the problems of toxic masculinity.

[Rancid]

-Aggression: The facial features I described are a result of high-t, and high-t is directly correlated with aggressive behavior.

-Hard Work: Liberals have a reputation of acting entitled to have more than what they have worked for. This is a common point of political discourse.

-Heavy Lifting: Larger muscles increases testosterone levels and creates a more masculine image, in both the body and the face.

-Fighters: The same masculine traits that create harm are the ones that create protection. Wars are fought to prevent greater atrocities.

So why make a thread if this is all known? Why are you bothering to ask this question?

Edit: NVM, you answered that already. You are looking for a strong man on the left.

[Beren]

What a pity that Schwarzenegger is a Republican. But he's married to a Kennedy and really progressive, does he count as half-leftist then?