late wrote:1) It's also why we have the Emoulements Clause, and why other presidents divested. He's self dealing, using the United States as a way to rake in millions.
Snooze... The purpose of the emoluments clause is that the president is not bought off by a foreign state.
late wrote:3) The Dems cleaned Ukraine up, helped a reformer win the presidency, and then Trump corrupted the guy the same way any sleazy mob boss would.
They participated in the overthrow of Ukraine's democratically-elected government. We shouldn't be "helping" anyone to get elected in foreign countries. That is the very interference we're supposed to believe is morally opprobrious when it happens to poor Hillary Clinton. The bottom line is that Ukraine depends on Russian gas subsidies, which Europe is not prepared to replace. Ukraine buying gas at market prices would crash their economy. They are in the same position now as when Yanukovich turned to Putin.
late wrote:I guess you aren't going to figure out that your excuses are DOA.
DOA where? I don't expect you to change. I expect you to keep flailing about desperately while Trump is poised to win again in 2020. I expect you to pretend that the bankrupt DNC will somehow win while Trump is setting fundraising records--even in the face of impeachment efforts.
Finfinder wrote:Not just elected official but also the unelected partisan Democrat bureaucrats.
Well, that's certainly true of Hunter Biden, Devon Archer and George Soros. I'm sure there are more people involved. I find the so-called anti-corruption initiative funded in part by George Soros to be suspect, especially because it was a joint venture with the State Department. I can see why Shokin would be interested in their doings for that reason alone.
Finfinder wrote:@late 's brain is so twisted into a pretzel that on one thread he claims Trump is dumb and not a hard worker and on another Trump was able to get himself elected president solely for the purposes of enriching himself.
It's pretty common for US Democrats to believe that anyone that doesn't believe as they do are stupid. On the day Trump announced, I thought he was something of a shit disturber. A few days later, he started talking about trade policy and tariffs, and at that point I knew he was serious and the establishment was in for a rude awakening. I can't believe it has been four years and these people still can't figure it out. They are still trying the old playbook of character assassination.
Finfinder wrote:Yet claims there is nothing to see with the Bidens, Obama,and the Clintons.
Yes. I'm expecting another whitewash with the Inspector General's report. It seems they have found a low-level person to pin the blame on in order to protect the higher ups, as per usual.
Finfinder wrote:....and they still don't understand why Trump gets so much support.
After years and years of this too.
Finfinder wrote:@late thinks the Democrats can win elections with raising taxes.
I rarely have much nice to say about establishment Republicans either, but Paul Ryan did stick it to the rich in blue states with the SALT limitations.
Finfinder wrote:@late thinks American don't want to keep their doctors
Yea, the Medicare-for-all thing is going nowhere. The DNC is effectively bankrupt. After debt, they have a net of a little over $1M. Trump is breaking fundraising records. Wall Street is starving the Democrats for cash.
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