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#15141081
No one wins a nuclear war, not when everyone has them. That is why 'the Great Powers' have not fought each other since the 1950's, at least not directly.

Naturally there will be a few bombing campaigns, supported of questionable right-wing 'benevolent dictators', some mild economic pressure. Maybe even arm a few terrorist groups just to spice things up.

Ahhhhh, those evil Russians. How can they be so evil and do all these things? ;)
#15141088
@SaddamHuseinovic

Actually, we (we as in the U.S.) will be deploying hypersonic missiles soon in 2021. We have also successfully tested hypersonic missiles, so this technology is not unique to Russia. I am sure other Western countries as well can easily develop this capability if they decide to do so. I am sure will be developing, testing and deploying even more various type hypersonic weapons soon in addition to this upcoming scheduled deployment in 2021.

Jen Judson of Defense News wrote:U.S. Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy reported in his speech at the Association of the U.S. Army conference that the Pentagon’s hypersonic missile hit within 6 inches of its target.

“Hypersonic missiles are hitting their targets with a variance of only a mere 6 inches,” he said during his speech at the virtual opening ceremony Oct. 13.

McCarthy was referring to the Army and Navy’s successful hypersonic glide body flight test this year, which launched from the Pacific Missile Range Facility in Kauai, Hawaii, on March 19, an Army spokesperson confirmed.

The Common-Hypersonic Glide Body, or C-HGB, launched and flew at hypersonic speed to “a designated impact point,” according to a statement issued the day of the test.

Hypersonic weapons are capable of flying faster than Mach 5 — much faster than the speed of sound — and can maneuver between varying altitudes and azimuths, making it harder to detect.

The C-HGB — made up of the weapon’s warhead, guidance system, cabling and thermal protection shield — will serve as the base of the Pentagon’s offensive hypersonic missile. Each of the services are developing appropriate launching systems.

The Army is developing a ground-launched capability and plans to field a battery-sized hypersonic weapon to soldiers by 2023.

Lockheed Martin is serving as the lead weapons integrator for the system onto a mobile truck, and Dynetics Technical Solutions is the first to learn how to build the glide body for production.

The Army is gearing up for another flight test in the third quarter of fiscal 2021 followed by a second flight test in the first quarter of fiscal 2022, Lt. Gen. L. Neil Thurgood told Defense News in an interview ahead of the AUSA conference. Then there will be two more flight tests in the third quarter of FY22, Thurgood added.

“So we’ll start the sequence now where we really accelerate our flight testing,” he said.

The Army plans to deliver a hypersonic missile and launcher to a unit in the fourth quarter of FY21.

Six days ago, Russia reported a successful test launch of its Zircon hypersonic missile, saying it hit a target in the Barents Sea, according to The Associated Press.



https://www.defensenews.com/digital-sho ... y-reports/
#15141093
@MadMonk

Not only does nobody win a nuclear war (or any type war really) but nobody wins an arms race. Arms races are very expensive (though wars are more expensive than arms races) and the money could be put to better use if countries didn't feel the need to engage in an arms race. There is also the threat of the militarization of space given Putin's attempts to develop technology to take out our (our as in the U.S.) satellites in space and our answer to it is developing a space force military branch to counter these efforts and develop our capabilities even more and more varied capabilities. So it goes back and forth.
#15141096
The US released a video of a mock hypersonic nuclear missile a few weeks ago.

Anyway, It's interesting how the so called anti-imperialists on pofo seem to not care about these weapons that are getting developed by China and Russia. These are escalations with intent to destabilize the world. Clearly, everyone else needs to match/surpass what these nations are doing. It's highly likely their actions are going to trigger a larger scale war at some point. The rest of the world needs to be ready to lay the smack down on them when they get more belligerent.

Anyway, aside from that, it will be interesting to see Russia-China relations deteriorate as China grows stronger. Their partnership is merely a relationship of convenience. They do not have cultural or historical ties and have been enemies in the relatively recent past. When China's strength disrupts the West versus East balance, we may see Russia get pushed into a relationship of convenience towards the west (you know, like in WWII).
#15141130
Politics_Observer wrote:@MadMonk

Not only does nobody win a nuclear war (or any type war really) but nobody wins an arms race. Arms races are very expensive (though wars are more expensive than arms races) and the money could be put to better use if countries didn't feel the need to engage in an arms race. There is also the threat of the militarization of space given Putin's attempts to develop technology to take out our (our as in the U.S.) satellites in space and our answer to it is developing a space force military branch to counter these efforts and develop our capabilities even more and more varied capabilities. So it goes back and forth.


And here I thought you won the Cold War in a combined arms race and space race.

Victory is never as sweet as one imagines, is it? ;)

I have never dismissed anyone of Imperialism but do you seriously belive I would ignore the greatest Empire of our time?

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#15141140
Rancid wrote:The US released a video of a mock hypersonic nuclear missile a few weeks ago.

Anyway, It's interesting how the so called anti-imperialists on pofo seem to not care about these weapons that are getting developed by China and Russia. These are escalations with intent to destabilize the world. Clearly, everyone else needs to match/surpass what these nations are doing. It's highly likely their actions are going to trigger a larger scale war at some point. The rest of the world needs to be ready to lay the smack down on them when they get more belligerent.

Anyway, aside from that, it will be interesting to see Russia-China relations deteriorate as China grows stronger. Their partnership is merely a relationship of convenience. They do not have cultural or historical ties and have been enemies in the relatively recent past. When China's strength disrupts the West versus East balance, we may see Russia get pushed into a relationship of convenience towards the west (you know, like in WWII).

What the hell are you talking about?? China isn't in any way like Nazi Germany, nor does Putin have any of Stalin's a-hole powerfreak tendencies.

Carry on.
#15141144
Unthinking Majority wrote:What the hell are you talking about?? China isn't in any way like Nazi Germany, nor does Putin have any of Stalin's a-hole powerfreak tendencies.


You're right, you're right.

Russian and China are developing hypersonic weapons for peaceful civilian use.
#15141225
Politics_Observer wrote:@SaddamHuseinovic

Actually, we (we as in the U.S.) will be deploying hypersonic missiles soon in 2021. We have also successfully tested hypersonic missiles, so this technology is not unique to Russia. I am sure other Western countries as well can easily develop this capability if they decide to do so. I am sure will be developing, testing and deploying even more various type hypersonic weapons soon in addition to this upcoming scheduled deployment in 2021.



https://www.defensenews.com/digital-sho ... y-reports/


Putin is 4 Years ahead, he could now win a nuclear war if he strikes first. China has just 300 warheads,Russia about 7000.

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China has a big conventional millitary superior as the Russian. China is the new Rising Star with an economy which doubles all 7 years
#15141244
@SaddamHuseinovic

SaddamHuseinovic wrote:Putin is 4 Years ahead, he could now win a nuclear war if he strikes first.


The same could be said for us with our Trident 2 D5 ballastic missile subs with super-fuze technology. The super-fuze technology gives us a first strike capability as we continue to develop our hypersonic weapons technology. The russians cannot locate our ballistic missiles submarines at sea and they can get very close to the Russian coastline without being detected. The super-fuze technology is not something the Russians have and it's extraordinarily accurate enabling us to hit Russian nuclear missiles in their underground hardened silos and still destroy them. Given how close those submarines can get to Russia's coastline, the Russians would have very little warning to launch a counter-strike. You can read about this super-fuze technology here from the Federation of American Scientists:

Hans M. Kristensen wrote:Under the cover of an otherwise legitimate life-extension of the W76 warhead, the Navy has quietly added a new super-fuze to the warhead that dramatically increases the ability of the Navy to destroy hard targets in Russia and other adversaries.

In a new article in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists Matthew McKinzie from NRDC, Theodore A. Postol from MIT, and I describe the impact of the super-fuze on the targeting capability of the US SSBN force and how it might effect strategic stability.

The new super-fuze dramatically increases the capability of the W76 warhead to destroy hard targets, such as Russian ICBM silos.

We estimate that the super-fuze capability is now operational on all nuclear warheads deployed on the Navy’s Ohio-class ballistic missile submarines. The new fuze has also been installed on warheads on British SSBN.

“As a consequence, the US submarine force today is much more capable than it was previously against hardened targets such as Russian ICBM silos. A decade ago, only about 20 percent of US submarine warheads had hard-target kill capability; today they all do.”

The new article builds on previous work by Ted Postol and myself but with new analysis explaining how the super-fuze works.

In the article we conclude that the SSBN force, rather than simply being a stable retaliatory capability, with the new super-fuze increasingly will be seen as a front-line, first-strike weapon that is likely to further fuel trigger-happy, worst-case planning in other nuclear-armed states.


https://fas.org/blogs/security/2017/03/super-fuze/
#15141247
Politics_Observer wrote:@MadMonk

Not only does nobody win a nuclear war (or any type war really) but nobody wins an arms race. Arms races are very expensive (though wars are more expensive than arms races) and the money could be put to better use if countries didn't feel the need to engage in an arms race. There is also the threat of the militarization of space given Putin's attempts to develop technology to take out our (our as in the U.S.) satellites in space and our answer to it is developing a space force military branch to counter these efforts and develop our capabilities even more and more varied capabilities. So it goes back and forth.


*laughs in military-industrial complex*
#15141295
This thread is like two people standing waist deep in gasoline arguing about who has more matches.
#15141304
Drlee wrote:This thread is like two people standing waist deep in gasoline arguing about who has more matches.


As true as this is, either side has to continue acquiring faster and better matches. You have to escalate when they do.
#15141305
@Rancid

That's right. The only way to stop is each side to return to compliance with past treaties they signed and then later on broke which has lead to the current situation. Otherwise, the arms race will continue unabated. China will also have to be part of any treaty too, otherwise, the U.S. and maybe even Russia won't have an incentive to return back to old treaties if China is not part of them and as such, the arms race will continue in such a scenario as well.
#15141320
Beren wrote:I thought it was Xi Jinping, although the Chinese are better at bug science than rocket science. I wonder if they use their collective intelligence and wisdom or follow a brain bug. :lol:

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