XogGyux wrote:This is an interesting topic. Let's set aside the fact that we don't know if a historical Jesus figure really ever existed let alone the actual birthdate. It is thought by scholars that even the year (usually year 1 AD, while most scholars that believe an actual Jesus figure existed placed his birth a few years earlier).
Total crap.
The question of whether or not Jesus existed is settled. Historians came to the consensus that Jesus did exist, since he appears significantly in the Talmud, Flavius Josephus' The Antiquities, the New Testament (also authored by Jews who simply happened to be Messianic) and works by the Roman historian Tacitus.
At this stage questioning the existence of Jesus is pure anti-semetism, since most of the historical records are Jewish. Frankly. And the fact that the Jews recorded this information despite most subsequent Jews hating that religious leader, yet choosing to preserve all references to him in those works, is what basically settled things for historians.
The issue over Jesus's birthdate is due to the fact King Herod the Great, who was alive when Jesus was born, is simply believed to have died in 4BC by some historians(while others believe he died in 1BC) and this is a very minor issue.
Christians absconded "Yule". No one would know the birth date of "historical Jesus", but I've heard some suspect it was in July. I find it hard to believe that Jesus would be a Cancer, and not a Capricorn
The question of weather or not Jesus celebrated his own birthday is way more interesting, since it relates to the history of the Bar Mitzvah ceremony and when Jews started celebrating it, which is totally utterly missing in the text. But we get a description of a "Bar Mitzvah" narrative, since that means "Son of the commandment" or basically "of age", in which Jesus gets found preaching in the Temple at 12YO. Unknown whether this was his parents celebrating his Birthday with a special trip to Jerusalem or not. It's more interesting than the usual debate.
Some lay christians suspect Jesus was born in July due to a stubborn insistence "the animals can't be out in winter" in a country known to have warm winters and extremely hot summers, while also stating his parents wouldn't travel south during winter.
But Jesus being born in December makes more sense on the Jewish calendar actually since his Parents had to travel south during winter to celebrate "The Festival Of The Dedication of the Temple in Jerusalem" anyway(so may as well kill two birds with one stone and do this pesky Census stuff just 10km further south) and Israel is hot, historians know the Jews themselves slept mostly outside, so why would the animals be any different???
Most Christians who push such idiotic theories have no understanding of the Jewish Religious Travel Schedule of the First Century (brand new holiday Hannukah was also a pilgrimage holiday so the Jews all went to Jerusalem!), nor have they ever lived in country with a hotter climate.