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The Chris Hedges Report: Ukraine and the crisis of media censorship

https://rumble.com/v1ih527-the-chris-he ... rship.html

(The video is also on YouTube with half a million watches, if the low view count bothers you)


Theres a lot talked about in this video, but if you dont want to watch it, a very reduced summary would be:

In Vietnam, the press could go anywhere, and the result was good reporting (relatively, anyway). This created problems for the elites who wanted to keep the war running. Merely to save face, as we know nowadays.

In the Iraq war, embedded journalism was invented. Thus the military controlled what the press was allowed to see. Only very few reporters managed to evade this. Chris Hedge managed because he speaks arabic. In fact the US government wanted to throw him out of Iraq, but simply couldnt find him.

The reporting of Hedges and others who opposed embedded journalism clashed with what regular reporters wrote because the later just wrote what the elites wanted to see in the news, instead of the truth.

Today, in Ukraine, many reporters simply stay in Kiev most of the time, and only go on short sightseeing tours with the ukrainian military. They simply want the credibility of being a war reporter, but not the risk. They report a hundred percent just ukrainian propaganda.

Which explains for example why the mainstream press reported that the russians would bomb a nuclear plant they had under control for months, or that the russians would bomb their own war prisoners camp, despite something like this never have happened before in any war ever and the russians literally having no motivation at all to do such a thing. If you wanted to get rid of a prisoner of war, you could just murder them. Without destroying the building and killing the guards as well.


As I've recently mentioned on this site, there many other examples. It has gotten so bad that Col Douglas MacGregor recently said: "Anything you hear in this war about Russia - is actually true about Ukraine".
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Since it fits extremely well into the theme of this thread: what kind of reporting about war gets you promoted ... and what kind gets you fired:

https://rumble.com/v1loa55-nbc-reporter ... fired.html

By the way, I find it absolutely hilarious that mainstream news tries to tell people that regular people dont die in war. :D

Especially US wars. The US military frankly doesnt give a f***. If theres a military reason to attack a target, civilians are fair game.

Well, that, and in any war both sides commit war crimes. Duh.



late wrote:He's a Trump guy that's been playing hide the weasel with Russians almost as long as Trump has.


:D

Spoiler Alert: you will find that pretty much all my source arent liked by the establishment. The above link goes to the Jimmy Dore show ... also not liked by the establishment.

Chris Hedges was one of the people who was discussed for running for president for the greens last election cycle. He's clearly extremely intelligent and brilliant and absolutely worth listening to. Every time.
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Fasces wrote:
Chris Hedges... is a Trump guy?



Col Douglas MacGregor

I was hoping to avoid Chris Hedges. There is a lot to like, but he doesn't quite get to expertise at times.

"Hedges called NATO's actions a "dangerous and sadly predictable provocation" that baited Russia to initiate a conflict."

A lot of countries, more than became members, wanted to join NATO because they understood Russia. They knew they needed protection.

They were right.

Europe used to have a lot of wars. Thanks to the EU, they felt they had gotten past that. So when Putin lunged for Kiev, they saw it for what it was, the beginning of a world war. Historically, Russia wants to control the region to protect itself.

Frankly, NATO wasn't set up to project force, and had deteriorated as a defensive force, alongside other issues that had plagued it from the beginning. Western military analysts thought Putin had actually modernised his military, and that meant there was a real possibility he could overwhelm the non-nuclear defenses.

Long story short, there is a lot I agree with, with what Hedges says. But there are some gaps in his understanding.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hedges
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