- 27 Jan 2012 16:26
#13882679
All drug cartels... Cocaine and marijuana would not be as expensive as they are, if it wasn't for cartels being formed, even if they are illegal.
Cartel formation, exploitation, etc. are just red herrings used to justify government intervention, invariably for the benefit of politicians, typically for the benefit of their capitalist cronies.
Power is defined simply as the ability of one actor to control other actors and resources. There is no need for a state for power to exist. Any human social network will present power relations, since rarely two people will be identical. Charisma, money, position, friendship etc all can give someone more power.
Imagine there was no state. Power would be defined solely by how rich each person is. The wealthiest would be able to get together, and thus, control who is paid, how much etc. To put it in simpler terms: there is nothing preventing the wealthy to form cartels and exploit their customers, if there isn't a state to regulate the economy. Those powerful and wealthy people would be able to sell their products by any price they wish, making it a perpetual situation in which the less powerful/poor people can never change their status. Soon, these cartels would become fiefs, and a situation similar to feudalism would rise again. The land owner would own everything: streets, buildings, farms. Everyone would be working for those people, who would form a new aristocracy. Etc.
Keep in mind that feudal domains, before liberalism arose, were all private property, not organized states...
PoFo ethnic party statistics: http://www.politicsforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8&p=14042520#p14042520
Eran wrote:How do you know? Can you think of a single instance of (consumer-damaging) cartel formation, exploitation, etc. taking place without the critical help of government?
All drug cartels... Cocaine and marijuana would not be as expensive as they are, if it wasn't for cartels being formed, even if they are illegal.
Cartel formation, exploitation, etc. are just red herrings used to justify government intervention, invariably for the benefit of politicians, typically for the benefit of their capitalist cronies.
What power do you see any so-called "political actors" having in an anarchy? Isn't political power entirely dependant on the state, without which it is non-existent?
Power is defined simply as the ability of one actor to control other actors and resources. There is no need for a state for power to exist. Any human social network will present power relations, since rarely two people will be identical. Charisma, money, position, friendship etc all can give someone more power.
In a society in which private property rights are the ultimate source of legitimacy, how can anybody manipulate the flow of money, become powerful, etc.?
Imagine there was no state. Power would be defined solely by how rich each person is. The wealthiest would be able to get together, and thus, control who is paid, how much etc. To put it in simpler terms: there is nothing preventing the wealthy to form cartels and exploit their customers, if there isn't a state to regulate the economy. Those powerful and wealthy people would be able to sell their products by any price they wish, making it a perpetual situation in which the less powerful/poor people can never change their status. Soon, these cartels would become fiefs, and a situation similar to feudalism would rise again. The land owner would own everything: streets, buildings, farms. Everyone would be working for those people, who would form a new aristocracy. Etc.
Keep in mind that feudal domains, before liberalism arose, were all private property, not organized states...
PoFo ethnic party statistics: http://www.politicsforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8&p=14042520#p14042520