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Classical liberalism. The individual before the state, non-interventionist, free-market based society.
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#14810037
Man hasn't been free since he was a pre-civilised animal and then only until caught by another stronger predator.

To be civilised is to be domesticated, the reward is the relative peace and comfort of civilised life, the cost is being milked and marshalled by the designs of the shepherds / governors. It is ownership of sort, for authority is a practical synonym with ownership.
#14834921
You pay your taxes as a contribution to the society you live in and the services and benefits you get from living in it.
Its not "slavery", its literally you paying for services. Simply paying for a whole lots of services in one package.
And you're getting it at a massive discount because 1- its pretty much mass production for these services by the state. 2- everyone pays as well. 3- Better off individuals are paying bigger share on your behalf so more discount. (For the third point, atleast in places where functional brains exist.)

If people don't want to pay taxes or contribute to society, don't fucking demand the government to do or provide anything to you. And states generally do a whole lot of things, even though most go un-noticed.

If you don't want to pay taxes to your government or atleast contribute in any meaningful way, move somewhere else and don't be a leach on the rest of society.


Seriously, the people who keep complaining about taxes and calling it "slavery" are in my opinion some of the most retarded people in the world.
Taxes is literally one of the main pillars of civilized societies that makes sure everyone plays role in maintaining it and insures its continuity and survival.
You don't like it ?! go fucking live in the jungle or something.
#14834925
anasawad wrote:You pay your taxes as a contribution to the society you live in and the services and benefits you get from living in it.
Its not "slavery", its literally you paying for services. Simply paying for a whole lots of services in one package.
And you're getting it at a massive discount because 1- its pretty much mass production for these services by the state. 2- everyone pays as well. 3- Better off individuals are paying bigger share on your behalf so more discount. (For the third point, atleast in places where functional brains exist.)

If people don't want to pay taxes or contribute to society, don't fucking demand the government to do or provide anything to you. And states generally do a whole lot of things, even though most go un-noticed.

If you don't want to pay taxes to your government or atleast contribute in any meaningful way, move somewhere else and don't be a leach on the rest of society.


Seriously, the people who keep complaining about taxes and calling it "slavery" are in my opinion some of the most retarded people in the world.
Taxes is literally one of the main pillars of civilized societies that makes sure everyone plays role in maintaining it and insures its continuity and survival.
You don't like it ?! go fucking live in the jungle or something.

i never said taxes are slavery but alot other thing do make us slaves unless 100% off the grid ur a the the system is not for the indivual but the colective and there lays my problem untill there is a country with individual liberty every one one the plant that is part of a system will be a slave laws
#14834927
You mean the set of laws each society or nation chooses for it self ,that are made to organize their society and protect all the individuals in it and their liberties from being under aggression of other individuals or entities, makes us slaves ? :|


As i said, if you think living under the umbrella of the law, or paying taxes, or anything of this sort in general makes you a slave or even partially a slave; Then you should go try living in a jungle because this is the only way a civilized society can exist.

Individual and specific laws can indeed restrict your liberties, and those should be removed. But the concept of laws in general does not make you a slave. It just makes you a member of a society.
#14834945
anasawad wrote:You mean the set of laws each society or nation chooses for it self ,that are made to organize their society and protect all the individuals in it and their liberties from being under aggression of other individuals or entities, makes us slaves ? :|


As i said, if you think living under the umbrella of the law, or paying taxes, or anything of this sort in general makes you a slave or even partially a slave; Then you should go try living in a jungle because this is the only way a civilized society can exist.

Individual and specific laws can indeed restrict your liberties, and those should be removed. But the concept of laws in general does not make you a slave. It just makes you a member of a society.

i dont want to be part of a sosidty law soshill constructs any thing that rules is slavely and parent razeing a child is slaver and comunty is slavery relijoin god slavery
#14929645
Once people get a firm understanding of 911, what happened and what didn't, it is clear that we Americans are not free, that our government and media lie to us on a regular basis, and we are being completely sold out...

On a 0-10 scale with 10 being totally free, we were at 8 in the mid 1990s, but now we are 3 at best, thanks to Traitors W and O.
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