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Missus V. Spolia wrote:See ya when you get home @Victoribus Spolia.
ingliz wrote:Talking to yourself is the first sign of madness.
Victoribus Spolia wrote:That is all my position requires.
That doesn't mean it can't be enforced, but since you already stated this earlier, there is no disagreement.
Pants-of-dog wrote:Your position where you pretebd to be an an-cap, or your position that all deals ever made anywhere are contracts?
Pants-of-dog wrote:Is it supposed to be an example of a stateless contract? If so, then please explain which stateless legal framework makes this contract binding.
Marriage, also called matrimony or wedlock, is a socially or ritually recognised union between spouses that establishes rights and obligations between those spouses, as well as between them and any resulting biological or adopted children and affinity (in-laws and other family through marriage). The definition of marriage varies around the world not only between cultures and between religions, but also throughout the history of any given culture and religion, evolving to both expand and constrict in who and what is encompassed, but typically it is principally an institution in which interpersonal relationships, usually sexual, are acknowledged or sanctioned. In some cultures, marriage is recommended or considered to be compulsory before pursuing any sexual activity. When defined broadly, marriage is considered a cultural universal. A marriage ceremony is known as a wedding.
Think of someone's property as their own nation, that helps. Pagan nations do all kinds of evil shit, that doesn't mean we just arbitrarily invade them.
Victoribus Spolia wrote:The former, but it depends on what you mean by "deal" in the latter, if you mean "binding agreement" then that would fulfill the Webster dictionary definition of a contract that I provided in a sufficient manner.
Family, society, religious-bodies.
Most marriages were regarded as binding contracts enforced independent of a state for most of human history and in most places of the world.
In the U.S. marriage was not even recognized in Law until 1913.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_ ... ted_States
a contract isn't an agreement
Pants-of-dog wrote:As far as I can tell, none of these groups forced any obligations.
At best, they simply ostracised people who were seen as bad spouses.
I am not even sure that marriages can be considered contracts until there was a legal framework that was enforced by the state.
It would make more sense to see it as a covenant rather than a contract.
Pants-of-dog wrote:As far as I can tell, this discusses how marriage evolved from an institution inti a cintract wuth the rise of civil law and contracts based on said law. It does not show that most people around the world considered marriage a contract or treated it like one.
ingliz wrote:A contract is an enforceable agreement.
SolarCross wrote:a legal fiction like "the state"
ingliz wrote:Why do you worship a state by proxy?
ingliz wrote:The state is an institution through which individuals and groups seek to exercise power.... Though a state may be a political community, it need not be. Yet it must always be an association: a collectivity with a structure of authority and a capacity for agency.
Chandran Kukathas, A Definition of the State Department of Government, London School of Economics
SolarCross wrote:What do you mean?
ingliz wrote:An association through which you can exercise power.
SolarCross wrote: it isn't clear which fiction you imagine that I am worshipping
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