- 14 Jun 2016 16:46
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Poking the Russian is definitely not something that should be done. That is why i said 'Thank Obama' to the Ukrainian situation. But the situation is what it is so there is not much that we can do about it. It is not like we are confronting the Russians from our side(Estonia).
In case of war, we do not really stand a chance in any particular way be it human or material resources. So the only choice we really have is to create a stable alliance. Poland had a population but not the materials needed to stop Germany in 1939. Estonia doesn't have both population nor the materials. An alliance with the guy with the biggest Club around is the only choice for us.
Germany also can't really fix this situation since they would be in the same situation as the US. They might be closer to us but defending us is problematic since we are so small and seperated by Sea from anybody else. We can hold out for 2 weeks(this is the plan for us) until Nato/allies arrive. We are not really planning to fight anybody head on seriously, we will scatter to the forests and hold the islands. The whole point of this is to make an attack on us more costly for anybody who wishes to attack us. Death of Nato troops on our territory would be a conflict with Nato which Russia can't afford which makes an invasion of Estonia more costly than any benefit it can bring.
I do not think that any nation is hopeless to change; however, I think that some nations do require a lot more effort than others to become changed. - Verv
Dave wrote:Relying on America to protect you from Russia seems rather like Poland relying on Britain and France to protect them in 1939.
Estonia is very far away from America and Russia has absolute superiority in the region. Russia could overrun your entire country in a few hours. By law of geography Estonia is necessarily in the sphere of Russia. Only Germany could change this, but Germans aren't interested in that role anymore.
How many Americans are willing to die for Reval?
The crazed neocohens who carry hatred of Russia in their blood are seeing their moment pass, but even if they keep their hold on power...is America poking a stick in Russia's eye really good for your country's security?
Poking the Russian is definitely not something that should be done. That is why i said 'Thank Obama' to the Ukrainian situation. But the situation is what it is so there is not much that we can do about it. It is not like we are confronting the Russians from our side(Estonia).
In case of war, we do not really stand a chance in any particular way be it human or material resources. So the only choice we really have is to create a stable alliance. Poland had a population but not the materials needed to stop Germany in 1939. Estonia doesn't have both population nor the materials. An alliance with the guy with the biggest Club around is the only choice for us.
Germany also can't really fix this situation since they would be in the same situation as the US. They might be closer to us but defending us is problematic since we are so small and seperated by Sea from anybody else. We can hold out for 2 weeks(this is the plan for us) until Nato/allies arrive. We are not really planning to fight anybody head on seriously, we will scatter to the forests and hold the islands. The whole point of this is to make an attack on us more costly for anybody who wishes to attack us. Death of Nato troops on our territory would be a conflict with Nato which Russia can't afford which makes an invasion of Estonia more costly than any benefit it can bring.
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I do not think that any nation is hopeless to change; however, I think that some nations do require a lot more effort than others to become changed. - Verv