[RhetoricThug]

Many posters seem to be gas lighting and distorting available evidence. All facts start out as theory, and investigation may lead to disclosure. Why would you run with Bush's line, 'let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories,' what's wrong with you people? This theory may be very real, stop gas lighting, you make me sick.

Police in Norway have filed charges against 51 men suspected of involvement in a massive paedophile ring.

Authorities seized 150 terabytes (150,000 gigabytes) of data, including photos, videos and chat transcripts between members of various paedophile networks.

Known as ‘Dark Room’, the police operation revealed sexual assaults against children as young as babies, according to The Local.

“The material shows the abuse of children of all ages, including infants,” Hilde Reikrås, head of Operation Dark Room, said at a news conference.

“The material shows, among other things, the penetration of toddlers, children being tied up, children having sex with animals and children having sex with other children.”

All of the men arrested live in Norway, but police confirmed they were investigating one individual living abroad. It is considered one of the largest sexual abuse cases ever in the country.

Some of those detained had live-streamed abuse of their own children. Those arrested include two elected officials, one teacher and a lawyer.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 32441.html

“They found State Department emails. They found a lot of other really damning criminal information, including money laundering, including the fact that Hillary went to this sex island with convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Bill Clinton went there more than 20 times. Hillary Clinton went there at least six times. The amount of garbage that they found in these emails, of criminal activity by Hillary, by her immediate circle, and even by other Democratic members of Congress was so disgusting they gave it to the FBI, and they said, ‘We’re going to go public with this if you don’t reopen the investigation and you don’t do the right thing with timely indictments.”

http://www.inquisitr.com/3682274/hillar ... jAYXKGu.99

Jerry Sandusky 'shared boys he molested with other high-profile pedophiles linked to Penn State as part of sex ring'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -ring.html



Catholic Church sexual abuse cases
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_ ... buse_cases




Lastly, Julian Assange may be MIA... We need 'proof of life.'

[The Immortal Goon]

Your link to Inquisitr specifically states that this is nothing more than a conspiracy theory, and your other links have nothing to do with this issue.

The only reason I'm sorry to report to you information from your own sources is because you so clearly want to be victimized by being "gas lighted," by evil people that use facts.

[maz]

These two men sold that boy to a network of pedos, but just like Sandusky, these two were the only ones brought up on charges. Why didn't we hear anything about the network?

Remember that time when Australian Broadcasting Corporation promoted two gay men as model parents?

A journalist's second thoughts

In 2010 Ginger Gorman interviewed a gay couple about their struggle to become parents. When the men were uncovered as paedophiles Gorman was left with a deep sense of grief for the boy and questioned whether there was anything she could have done.

[RhetoricThug]

Overzealous post using that tired 'Ima materialist, too drunk off the kool-aid to feel anything,' gag.

Your link to Inquisitr specifically states that this is nothing more than a conspiracy theory, and your other links have nothing to do with this issue.

The only reason I'm sorry to report to you information from your own sources is because you so clearly want to be victimized by being "gas lighted," by evil people that use facts.

I get it TIG, you only deal in curtailed information (surface symptoms), because you lack the ability to think for yourself. Go make yourself useful and protest Trump or something. You're not an investigator, aggregator, or inventor... You're a tool, that's why you're a moderator and a communist.

The other links show how real it may be. Just waiting for a proper investigation...

[Political Interest]

I believe it is real.

Why would I doubt it? It amazes me how people are always quick to dismiss anything like this as a conspiracy theory.

[maz]

Why would I doubt it?

The only reason to doubt it is because there are a lot of YouTubers adding in a bunch of crazy stuff that make it kind of an unbelievable story, like the alleged tunnels that connect the pizza shops to other tunnel networks.

But the interesting thing is that a pizza shop being raided for alleged human trafficking and child porn has already happened before. Just last year!

Dojo Pizza raided in alleged human trafficking ring

ST. LOUIS, Mo. (KMOV.com) -- Federal agents, along with officers with the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department, raided Dojo Pizza on Morganford Road in connection with an alleged human trafficking ring Friday afternoon.

Police on the scene say seven girls under the age of 17 were found "housed' in the establishment.

"What we witnessed was them kicking down doors of the church and everything, said Cleven James."This supposed to be Dojo and a pizza joint, at the same time the community trusted that their kids go here. Parents drop them off, like a baby siting think or whatever. But they leave their kids here and to learn karate."

"It's real shocking because the man, he's been there for three to four years," said Helen David, a business owner in the area. "The intent was that he was keeping kids out of trouble and he did karate. They did dance. They sold pizza. I bought pizza from him."

Dojo Pizza, located in St. Louis' Bevo Mill neighborhood, also offers Karate and self defense classes, as well as dance lessons, their website states. They are listed as a Non For Profit Company.

"I would say it's very popular with kids," one resident near Dojo Pizza said. "I noticed girls there dressed very comfortably, booty shorts, short shorts, pajama pants, and sleeping shorts." One resident even claims to have heard screaming coming from inside the building saying it happened about a month ago and sounded like two girls shouting "help me."

BREAKING: Dojo Pizza's Loren Copp Arrested on Child Pornography Charges

Loren Copp, the Dojo Pizza owner targeted in a long-running criminal investigation, was arrested Thursday afternoon on charges of producing child pornography.

Federal agents took the 47-year-old into custody about 3:45 p.m. outside the Bevo Mill church where he once taught karate, ran a pizza restaurant, operated a school and raised four teenage girls, according to a witness and his attorney.

The federal complaint claims investigators searched "multiple types of digital media" and discovered an image of a minor performing oral sex on Copp and another of Copp having vaginal sex with the girl. The minor, listed as "Jane Doe 1" in the document, identified Copp as the man in the photos, according to the complaint. She says she was about twelve in the first photo and fifteen or sixteen in the second.

Copp was the subject of an RFT feature story in December after a series of federal raids on Dojo Pizza. He was taken into police custody for a couple of days in October on suspicion of child endangerment, but he was released without charges.

He has maintained his innocence, blaming the investigation on a disgruntled former live-in volunteer who he'd ejected from the dojo. Court documents filed in support of the early raids revealed police were investigating accusations of human trafficking, alleging Copp forced the teens to work for free in the pizzeria. He denied the charge. The girls were staying him because their parents were on drugs, imprisoned or otherwise unable to care for them, he said. Two of the girls had lived with him so long, they called him their father, and he considered them his daughters.

Parents, visitors to the dojo and one of the girls interviewed by the RFT supported him.

[The Immortal Goon]

Why would I doubt it? It amazes me how people are always quick to dismiss anything like this as a conspiracy theory.

Because, as of yet, there is no evidence and no reports of victims. Just because there are pedophiles does not mean that every meritless claim of pedophilia must be true.

The reply to this is that the people reporting that there is no reason to believe this story, The New York Times, NPR, pretty much every bit of legitimate source information we can get--must be pedophiles involved in the conspiracy, while Starfucker69 on 4chan must be a legitimate source of information.

When there are facts, then there is reason to explore this. At the moment, this is internet trolling confirming people's special snowflake feels.

But this is not new. I remember the Satanic Daycare Scare of the 1980s and 1990s. There were all kinds of accusations that daycare providers were taking children into underground tunnels where they would be abused and tortured in order to appease Satanic cults.

None of it turned out to be true.

When you once believed something that now strikes you as absurd, even unhinged, it can be almost impossible to summon that feeling of credulity again. Maybe that is why it is easier for most of us to forget, rather than to try and explain, the Satanic-abuse scare that gripped this country in the early 80s – the myth that Devil-worshipers had set up shop in our day-care centers, where their clever adepts were raping and sodomizing children, practicing ritual sacrifice, shedding their clothes, drinking blood and eating feces, all unnoticed by parents, neighbors and the authorities.

Before that there were Red Scares. Before that, hunts for Jews involved in international conspiracies. Before that there were witch trials.

For whatever reason people, especially it seems hysterical reactionaries, will cling to this kind of garbage and then uncomfortably deny their former precious feelings when facts are shed upon this bullshit.

[maz]

You're right, there is probably a perfectly rational reason that Andrew Breitbart called out John Podesta for covering up a child trafficking ring just before he had a fatal heart.

[Pants-of-dog]

Yea, it is called profit.

In capitalism, people get money and power by selling goods and services to the public. Breitbart sells conspiracy theories.

[mikema63]

Maz are you an agent for info wars paid to spread conspiracies and increase infowars' market?

[quetzalcoatl]

Overzealous post using that tired 'Ima materialist, too drunk off the kool-aid to feel anything,' gag.
I get it TIG, you only deal in curtailed information (surface symptoms), because you lack the ability to think for yourself. Go make yourself useful and protest Trump or something. You're not an investigator, aggregator, or inventor... You're a tool, that's why you're a moderator and a communist.

The other links show how real it may be. Just waiting for a proper investigation...

How far off the reservation we now have wandered (the reservation being some semblance of rationality). The rules of evidence are a distant memory, and anything you can imagine must be investigated. If you can't see how badly this is going to turn out, then I truly pity you.

[RhetoricThug]

@maz Don't worry bout the other posters, they seem to be sheltered from the 'dark' side of human nature. Given the information found within various emails, the images on social media, and coded keywords, we should have someone investigate this. Criminal networks and despicable acts get covered up or go unnoticed everyday because of systematic blackmail and the extreme/inconvenient realizations people must confront in order to properly investigate human trafficking rings, ritual abuse, sexual abuse, murder, etc. Saying that Maz may be spreading fake news or is working for 'info wars' certainly demonstrates a limited knowledge of media and the seedy underworld of bureaucratic psychopathy.

@quetzalcoatl Okay, Mr slippery slope fallacy. Given the amount of evidence and folks involved, I'd like to promote case law. 'Pizzagate' and its investigation could be formed around non-fallacious precedents set by older investigations/cases. We're not in any way shape or form suggesting mob justice, these folks are innocent until proven guilty, but we should launch a probe and investigate the individuals involved in this 'pizzagate' network. Lastly, people are not 'imagining' anything, go do the research.

[Lexington]

We're not in any way shape or form suggesting mob justice

but we should launch a probe and investigate the individuals involved in this 'pizzagate' network

There's a whole judiciary thing that separates satanic panics and "mob justice" from, er, justice.

[Donna]

I think the argument for Pizzagate is fairly solid, but it still only relies on circumstantial evidence. There isn't much anyone can do without a victim or witness stepping forward.

The idea that Pizzagate as a conspiracy meme should not be tolerated is a bit totalitarian. The fake news hysteria has maligned it with Cuckgate (the theory that Fidel Castro is Justin Trudeau's biological father) as an example of meme-based narratives that now must be excised by the elite media cabals of fact-collectors and verifiers. I also sense the effort to stigmatize "post-truthers" is unjustifiably aggressive over abstract epistemic differences. The professional culture-creating class hasn't figured out yet that absurd memes are post-ironic and have a philosophical basis that merit their existence.

[Albert]

Memes have profound psychological impact on the viewer. They are a modern weapon we can use to fight the establishment.

[Donna]

They are indeed quite powerful. Could it be that all of the people that have been named in Pizzagate are innocent of the charges of the conspiracy theory? Yes, but it doesn't matter. Sometimes it is necessary that a scapegoat atones for the suffering of the working class.

[anarchist23]

This is in the last week..

About 350 victims have reported child sexual abuse within UK football clubs, police chiefs have said.
The National Police Chiefs' Council said a "significant number of calls" had been received after several former players alleged past abuse by coaches.
Its figures are also based on details from existing investigations as well as referrals from a new NSPCC helpline.
Greater Manchester Police said it was investigating reports from 35 people, and had identified 10 suspects.
Assistant Chief Constable Debbie Ford said the force had received calls on a daily basis from victims as well as people with concerns.
"We are currently in the process of speaking to victims in person and providing them with specialist support," she added.
Meanwhile, Devon and Cornwall Police and Warwickshire Police have become the latest forces to confirm they are investigating claims.
The 17 forces looking into allegations of historical child sex abuse in football also include the Metropolitan Police, North Yorkshire Police, Police Scotland and Cheshire Police.
The NSPCC says more than 860 people have called its dedicated football hotline, set up a week ago.
Within the first three days of it launching, the charity made more than 60 referrals to a range of agencies across the UK.
That was more than three times as many referrals as in the first three days of the Jimmy Savile scandal, the charity added.
The phone line is available 24 hours a day on 0800 023 2642.

BBC

[maz]

@maz Don't worry bout the other posters, they seem to be sheltered from the 'dark' side of human nature.

Not worried at all! It's just par for the course on this playing field.

And I doubt Andrew Breitbart would taunt John Podesta with such a serious and slanderous claim just for entertainment purposes or to drive traffic to his website, especially since Breitbart never covered it and still hasn't covered it.

But since the topic is going viral and uncontrolled on the internet, teevee jerkoff Trevor Noah has been tasked with ridiculing the whole thing and run interference for the pedo network. I guess Anderson Cooper was unavailable.

[Donna]

It's always a crazy conspiracy right up until the moment when it isn't.

[LV-GUCCI-PRADA-FLEX]

PizzaGate is happening because of unrelated pedophile rings. Makes total sense.

I could also accuse y'all of being a secret pedophile ring. After all you keep posting about pedophiles, and visit a known pedophile recruitment ground (4chan). Pedophiles the lot of you!