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#14841337
Could there be an identical twin Bulaba? Or a clone that grew in a vat in a laboratory for this purpose?

MB edit: triple parenthesis are considered trolling
#14841340
I'm not saying I have evidence or know for sure or anything like that that Mossad is involved, but... could the inside job be an inside job? Hillary and her supporters clearly stage the events of Charlottesville to slander the good name of Hitler and the not-Nazis who follow him. However, the staging is itself a ruse by the Reptilians to make it seem like they aren't involved in the whole thing, and that the events in Charlottesville are just a convenient distraction from their continued takeover. Coincidence?
#14841346
Wrong wrong wrong, Bob Ross is behind it all, I don't know his motives, but just look at him and tell me you don't see IT!

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Yes, Bob Ross has fooled you all and only I can see through to the truth.


Wonder if might be able to link such views to a kind of idealism.
Moreover, Marx argued, reasoning based on contemplation of such abstract objects will necessarily lapse into methodological idealism, eschewing material determinations as mere appearances that distract from a proper appreciation of the nature of reality, rather than being the absolute starting place for a proper understanding of reality

What it seems to be is an aversion to appearances entirely and then attempts to assert an essence of what it really is.
Facts are totally eschewed in order to find the truth behind all appearances, but the essence of things isn't found through a rejection of form. But might be a bit hard to tease out the view in order to appraise it as it seems mostly conclusions rather than the manner in which one comes to conclusions is whats expressed. That being the general framework and assumptions one employs in their interpretation.
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As I've said in the RACE WAR™ Starts, it will be the Inuit that will outlast us all. Is it too much to think that the Inuit have already started RACE WAR™?

The only people cunning enough to turn people against the good name of the Nazis are the Inuit, future victors of RACE WAR™!!
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I think the Polynesians might be co winners with the Inuit. At least until their lands are submerged.
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The Immortal Goon wrote:As I've said in the RACE WAR™ Starts, it will be the Inuit that will outlast us all. Is it too much to think that the Inuit have already started RACE WAR™?

The only people cunning enough to turn people against the good name of the Nazis are the Inuit, future victors of RACE WAR™!!

The Antifa is the closest America has to Nazis. Lock 'em up. HalleluYah
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:lol:

"The anti-fascists are fascists."

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We are calling the Nazis Nazis because the Nazis call themselves Nazis. And the others that want to unify with Nazis are, I think fair game.

You are just name calling.

What part of the Nazis remind you most of Anti-Fa? Is it the determination to stamp out the left?

Mussolini wrote:Fascism [is] the complete opposite of…Marxian Socialism, the materialist conception of history of human civilization can be explained simply through the conflict of interests among the various social groups and by the change and development in the means and instruments of production.... Fascism, now and always, believes in holiness and in heroism; that is to say, in actions influenced by no economic motive, direct or indirect. And if the economic conception of history be denied, according to which theory men are no more than puppets, carried to and fro by the waves of chance, while the real directing forces are quite out of their control, it follows that the existence of an unchangeable and unchanging class-war is also denied - the natural progeny of the economic conception of history. And above all Fascism denies that class-war can be the preponderant force in the transformation of society....

After Socialism, Fascism combats the whole complex system of democratic ideology, and repudiates it, whether in its theoretical premises or in its practical application. Fascism denies that the majority, by the simple fact that it is a majority, can direct human society; it denies that numbers alone can govern by means of a periodical consultation, and it affirms the immutable, beneficial, and fruitful inequality of mankind, which can never be permanently leveled through the mere operation of a mechanical process such as universal suffrage....

...Fascism denies, in democracy, the absur[d] conventional untruth of political equality dressed out in the garb of collective irresponsibility, and the myth of "happiness" and indefinite progress....

...given that the nineteenth century was the century of Socialism, of Liberalism, and of Democracy, it does not necessarily follow that the twentieth century must also be a century of Socialism, Liberalism and Democracy: political doctrines pass, but humanity remains, and it may rather be expected that this will be a century of authority...a century of Fascism.


Mussolini wrote:...Fascism is opposed to Socialism, which confines the movement of history within the class struggle and ignores the unity of classes established in one economic and moral reality in the State; and analogously it is opposed to class syndicalism. . . .


Hitler wrote:...And it is the greatest source of pride to us that we have been able to carry through this revolution, which is certainly the greatest revolution ever experienced in the history of our people, with a minimum of loss and sacrifice. Only in those cases where the murderous lust of the Bolsheviks, even after the 30th of January, 1933, led them to think that by the use of brute force they could prevent the success and realization of the National Socialist ideal—only then did we answer violence with violence, and naturally we did it promptly...

...I mean here that if Europe does not awaken to the danger of the Bolshevic infection, then I fear that international commerce will not increase but decrease, despite all the good intentions of individual statesmen. For this commerce is based not only on the undisturbed and guaranteed stability of production in one individual nation but also on the production of all the nations together. One of the first things which is clear in this matter is that every Bolshevic disturbance must necessarily lead to a more or less permanent destruction of orderly production. Therefore my opinion about the future of Europe is, I am sorry to say, not so optimistic as Mr. Eden’s. I am the responsible leader of the German people and must safeguard its interests in this world as well as I can. And therefore I am bound to judge things objectively as I see them.

I should not be acquitted before the bar of our history if I neglected something—no matter on what grounds—which is necessary to maintain the existence of this people. I am pleased, and we are all pleased, at every increase that takes place in our foreign trade. But in view of the obscure political situation I shall not neglect anything that is necessary to guarantee the existence of the German people, although other nations may become the victims of the Bolshevic infection.

...But I believe that nobody will question the sincerity of our opinions on this matter, for they are not based merely on abstract theory. For Mr. Eden Bolshevism is perhaps a thing which has its seat in Moscow, but for us in Germany this Bolshevism is a pestilence against which we have had to struggle at the cost of much bloodshed. It is a pestilence which tried to turn our country into the same kind of desert as is now the case in Spain; for the habit of murdering hostages began here, in the form in which we now see it in Spain. National Socialism did not try to come to grips with Bolshevism in Russia, but the Jewish international Bolshevics in Moscow have tried to introduce their system into Germany and are still trying to do so. Against this attempt we have waged a bitter struggle, not only in defence of our own civilization but in defence of European civilization as a whole.

In January and February of the year 1933, when the last decisive struggle against this barbarism was being fought out in Germany, had Germany been defeated in that struggle and had the Bolshevic field of destruction and death extended over Central Europe, then perhaps a different opinion would have arisen on the banks of the Thames as to the nature of this terrible menace to humanity. For since it is said that England must be defended on the frontier of the Rhine she would then have found herself in close contact with that harmless democratic world of Moscow, whose innocence they are always trying to impress upon us. Here I should like to state the following once again: —

The teaching of Bolshevism is that there must be a world revolution, which would mean world-destruction. If such a doctrine were accepted and given equal rights with other teachings in Europe, this would mean that Europe would be delivered over to it. If other nations want to be on good terms with this peril, that does not affect Germany’s position. As far as Germany itself is concerned, let there be no doubts on the following points: —

(1) We look on Bolshevism as a world peril for which there must be no toleration.

(2) We use every means in our power to keep this peril away from our people.

(3) And we are trying to make the German people immune to this peril as far as possible.

It is in accordance with this attitude of ours that we should avoid close contact with the carriers of these poisonous bacilli. And that is also the reason why we do not want to have any closer relations with them beyond the necessary political and commercial relations; for if we went beyond these we might thereby run the risk of closing the eyes of our people to the danger itself.

I consider Bolshevism the most malignant poison that can be given to a people. And therefore I do not want my own people to come into contact with this teaching. As a citizen of this nation I myself shall not do what I should have to condemn my fellow-citizens for doing. I demand from every German workman that he shall not have any relations with these international mischief-makers and he shall never see me clinking glasses or rubbing shoulders with them. Moreover, any further treaty connections with the present Bolshevic Russia would be completely worthless for us. It is out of the question to think that National Socialist Germany should ever be bound to protect Bolshevism or that we, on our side, should ever agree to accept the assistance of a Bolshevic State. For I fear that the moment any nation should agree to accept such assistance, it would thereby seal its own doom.


Hitler wrote:I aimed from the first at something a thousand times higher than being a minister. I wanted to become the destroyer of Marxism. I am going to achieve this task and, if I do, the title of minister will be an absurdity as far as I am concerned. . . .

At one time I believed that perhaps this battle against Marxism could be carried on with the help of the government. In January, 1923, I learned that that was just not possible. The hypothesis for the victory of Marxism is not that Germany must be free, but rather Germany will only be free when Marxism is broken. At that time I did not dream that our movement would become great and cover Germany like a flood.]Hitler[/url]"]I aimed from the first at something a thousand times higher than being a minister. I wanted to become the destroyer of Marxism. I am going to achieve this task and, if I do, the title of minister will be an absurdity as far as I am concerned. . . .

At one time I believed that perhaps this battle against Marxism could be carried on with the help of the government. In January, 1923, I learned that that was just not possible. The hypothesis for the victory of Marxism is not that Germany must be free, but rather Germany will only be free when Marxism is broken. At that time I did not dream that our movement would become great and cover Germany like a flood.


Hitler wrote:IN NOVEMBER, 1918, Marxist organizations seized the executive power by means of a revolution. The monarchs were dethroned, the authorities of the Reich and of the States removed from office, and thereby a breach of the Constitution was committed. The success of the revolution in a material sense protected the guilty parties from the hands of the law. They sought to justify it morally by asserting that Germany or its Government bore the guilt for the outbreak of the War.

This assertion was deliberately and actually untrue. In consequence, however, these untrue accusations in the interest of our former enemies led to the severest oppression of the entire German nation and to the breach of the assurances given to us in Wilson's fourteen points, and so for Germany, that is to say the working classes of the German people, to a time of infinite misfortune....

The splitting up of the nation into groups with irreconcilable views, systematically brought about by the false doctrines of Marxism, means the destruction of the basis of a possible communal life.... It is only the creation of a real national community, rising above the interests and differences of rank and class, that can permanently remove the source of nourishment of these aberrations of the human mind.


What part of the Nazi platform Anti-Fa is advancing?

:lol:
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The Immortal Goon wrote::lol:

"The anti-fascists are fascists."

We are calling the Nazis Nazis because the Nazis call themselves Nazis. And the others that want to unify with Nazis are, I think fair game.

You are just name calling.

What part of the Nazis remind you most of Anti-Fa? Is it the determination to stamp out the left?

You are calling people Nazis, that is also name calling. The tactics used by Antifa makes them the Nazis of the left. Doesn't Antifa want to stamp out the right?

Does the fact that I am against most of the ideas and goals of the left make me a Nazis to you? Is it the fact that I am of a white race and believe in law and order make me a Nazis to you? How about the fact that I believe in the Constitution of the USA and the strong enforcement of the 1st and 2nd Amendments as originally written and not as the left interpret it? How about the fact that I am a confessing Christian and not an atheist? I don't want a Jew to replace me. Do you?

I will bet you that none of those people in the Unite the Right Rally believes that crap about Germany. They may be nationalist, but it is for support of America, not Germany. America First. Praise the Lord. HalleluYah.
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Hindsite wrote:You are calling people Nazis, that is also name calling.


I am calling people that prefer to be called Nazis Nazis. I am grouping in people that wanted to "Unite the right" with Nazis as sometimes being Nazis also.

This is not the same.

The tactics used by Antifa makes them the Nazis of the left.


Nazism is an actual ideology, not whatever your blubbering cries make you feel like it is. Please see my citations.

Doesn't Antifa want to stamp out the right?


It may be difficult for an illiterate to understand, but the anti fascists want to stamp out fascism.

Nazism is a form of fascism.

Fascism is an extreme right wing ideology.

Finally, were your pissy-pants accurate and anti-fa was out to stop the right, this does not change the fact that Nazism is a specific ideology, not just precious snowflake code for, "bad."

Does the fact that I am against most of the ideas and goals of the left make me a Nazis to you?


No. The fact that you slavishly lick the boots of fascists and whine about how people are mean to Nazis make me question whether you are sympathetic to Nazism.

Is it the fact that I am of a white race and believe in law and order make me a Nazis to you?


No. The fact that you are constantly whining about everyone not being for a "Unite the Right" rally that seeks to make mainstream conservatives (not Nazis) find common cause with Nazis (Nazis) makes me think you may have Nazi tendencies.

How about the fact that I believe in the Constitution of the USA and the strong enforcement of the 1st and 2nd Amendments as originally written and not as the left interpret it?


The fact you are pro Nazi rally and against anti-Nazi free speech makes me suspect you may be a bit of a Nazi.

How about the fact that I am a confessing Christian and not an atheist? I don't want a Jew to replace me. Do you?


I do not give a fuck about whatever Sky god you imagine is watching you masturbate.

I will bet you that none of those people in the Unite the Right Rally believes that crap about Germany. They may be nationalist, but it is for support of America, not Germany. America First. Praise the Lord. HalleluYah.


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Now, I've answered all of the questions you've childishly raised to distract from the ones I've asked you.

Please do me the courtesy of explaining how the left fits into the programs of the fascists in general or the Nazis in particular (using actual Nazi and fascist sources) or apologize for making such unfounded emotional outbursts.
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The Immortal Goon wrote:I am calling people that prefer to be called Nazis Nazis. I am grouping in people that wanted to "Unite the right" with Nazis as sometimes being Nazis also.

This is not the same.

You have shown no proof that any of those people in the Unite the Right rally want to be called Nazis.

The Immortal Goon wrote:Nazism is an actual ideology, not whatever your blubbering cries make you feel like it is. Please see my citations.

Yes, I already looked at your citations about Hitler and Germany. However, we are not in Germany and the Unite the Right Rally had nothing to do with Germany. It did have something to do with supporting American history.

The Immortal Goon wrote:It may be difficult for an illiterate to understand, but the anti fascists want to stamp out fascism.

Nazism is a form of fascism.

Fascism is an extreme right wing ideology.

The English word fascist was first used for members of Mussolini’s fascisti, but it has since been generalized to those of similar beliefs.

Definition of fascism for English Language Learners:

1. A way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government.

2. very harsh control or authority

Definition of fascism for Students:

A political system headed by a dictator in which the government controls business and labor and opposition is not permitted.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

No one on the Right in the USA, that I know of, wants business and labor controlled by the government. That seems more like what the extreme left wants. No one in the USA wants a government ruled by a dictator who controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government.

The Immortal Goon wrote:Finally, were your pissy-pants accurate and anti-fa was out to stop the right, this does not change the fact that Nazism is a specific ideology, not just precious snowflake code for, "bad."

No. The fact that you slavishly lick the boots of fascists and whine about how people are mean to Nazis make me question whether you are sympathetic to Nazism.

No. The fact that you are constantly whining about everyone not being for a "Unite the Right" rally that seeks to make mainstream conservatives (not Nazis) find common cause with Nazis (Nazis) makes me think you may have Nazi tendencies.

The fact you are pro Nazi rally and against anti-Nazi free speech makes me suspect you may be a bit of a Nazi.

Let me put your concerns to rest. I am not against any kind of free speech, from the right or from the left. But free speedh does not include violence and destruction no matter what side is doing it. I am not on the side of Nazis, if there really are Nazis in the USA. But I am also not on the side of Antifa and BLM if that means killing police and creating a riot of violence and destruction.

The Immortal Goon wrote:I do not give a fuck about whatever Sky god you imagine is watching you masturbate.

You seem to be getting a little too emotional here. Perhaps you should take a feww deep breaths and then count to 100.

The Immortal Goon wrote:Now, I've answered all of the questions you've childishly raised to distract from the ones I've asked you.

Please do me the courtesy of explaining how the left fits into the programs of the fascists in general or the Nazis in particular (using actual Nazi and fascist sources) or apologize for making such unfounded emotional outbursts.


If you will take a closer look at my answer, you should see that I did present a general view of how I believed the Antifa are an extreme left version of the definition of Nazis facism that want to get rid of Capitalism, and favor a form of Marxism (socialist=m/communism). Doesn't the extreme left and practically all the left want the goverment to control business, labor wages, healthcare, and many other things that concern the lives of the people?

Urban Dictionary Definition of Antifa:

Short for (militant) anti-fascists.

Middle-class champagne socialist/communist/anarchist white boys who don't like nationalists or fascists. They consider themselves to be rebelling against the establishment, whilst upholding all of its ultra-politically correct views.

Antifa only dislike racism when its carried out by whites, and do not have the bottle to stand up against anti-white racism; leading to many people on the right to refer to them as 'traitors'. I'd rather just call them morons.

A bunch of skinhead brats living in their moms basements looking to beat the crap out of anyone who doesnt follow their point of view. They believe their tactics are for the greater good, but have pretty much ran out of nazies to chase after so take it out on anyone else. They will beat you up using mace, batons, boots, brass knuckles and anything else at their disposal. They are the fascist anti fascists. Remember they are cowards, will gang up on you, and only attack in groups. See a lone antifa and they will run screaming.

A terrorist group generally made up of degenerate anarchy loving teenagers, similar to that of the ARA, who hate anyone that is a racist/nationalist/"nazi"/etc.
They are well known for not being able to hold any sort of protest or demonstration without becoming rowdy, damaging property, or attempting to use violence.

Anti-capitalistic, anti-personal freedom (unless you agree with them) anti-spiritual, anti-point. Harbors a social superiority with lack of civility or natural intelligence. These dim bulbs (at best) can be characterized by, greasy hair, basement dwellings and being totally devoid of any style or attraction. Usually spotted lurking at night in large groups of marauding retards of like mind (or lack thereof) near a large University or College, anywhere they can find safety in shear numbers (because their pussy's) but has been known to venture out in the daylight to antagonize, mace women, light garbage cans and cop cars on fire at DJT rallies for money.

An antifascist is somebody who is usually young, upper to middle class(wo)man who sits in their parents house standing against racism on their computers while sipping expensive wine. Most of them are anarchists or far-leftists such as communists or Marxists (or any socialists for that matter.)

When they get off their computers and go into the real world, they usually flood the streets in packs waving red and black flags symbolizing anarcho-communism, or maybe they just fly black flags or red flags. Since they are too dumb to realize that anarchism and socialism were ideas written from behind a desk and not able to be used in reality.

Usually antifa groups will not fight in a one on one match with a skinhead, they always attack in packs or cells. However, most are vegans and/or hippies so this is understandable since they're all weaklings.

Even if you do not agree with half of what I said, these people are politically correct hippies who adopt the most mainstream political views and then they make it look like they're a special fucking snowflake.

Some wave the flag of the USSR, if you see it, shove it up their ass!

In the United States, antifa stands for anti-First Amendment. While many claim that the group is anti-fascist, their actions have focused on shouting down and in some cases physically attacking those who oppose Progressive big government.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=antifa
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Hindsite wrote:You have shown no proof that any of those people in the Unite the Right rally want to be called Nazis.


People walking around with Nazi flags at a rally specifically at:

Alt Right wrote:the largest ethno-nationalist rally of the 21st century...to defend White heritage


That call themselves:

the proverbial and literal White Guard


Dressed as Nazi Storm troopers:

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Giving Nazi salutes:

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Carrying Nazi flags:

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Lionizing Hitler:

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At a rally specifically to unite Nazis (NS is National Socialist, which is what Nazi is short for):

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In solidarity with other Nazi groups:

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Is probably okay with being called Nazis.

Yes, I already looked at your citations about Hitler and Germany. However, we are not in Germany and the Unite the Right Rally had nothing to do with Germany. It did have something to do with supporting American history.


Using that same logic, you have nothing to fear from your imagined version of Anti-Fa as we are not in Russia.

Nazism is an ideology, not a time and place.

The English word fascist was first used for members of Mussolini’s fascisti, but it has since been generalized to those of similar beliefs.


True. And Nazism is a specific type of fascist ideology.

Definition of fascism for English Language Learners:

1. A way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government.

2. very harsh control or authority

Definition of fascism for Students:

A political system headed by a dictator in which the government controls business and labor and opposition is not permitted.


Do you think it might say something about this discussion that I chose to use primary historical documents about Nazism and fascism and you used a dictionary for people that don't understand the English language?

Regardless, this in no way means that the Nazis at a Nazi rally aren't Nazis.

No one on the Right in the USA, that I know of, wants business and labor controlled by the government. That seems more like what the extreme left wants.


One can make all kinds of arguments to the contrary.. Incidentally, the extreme left ultimately doesn't want a government at all.

Regardless all kinds of ideologies want some kind of government control. The fact you had to stoop to choose this particular one must certainly say something about your Nazi friends.

No one in the USA wants a government ruled by a dictator who controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government.


Please cite specific points from the actual platform, not a dictionary for people learning the English language. Surely you understand that the dictionary, and especially the dictionary you are using, is made for simple interpretation and not full understanding.

Let me put your concerns to rest. I am not against any kind of free speech, from the right or from the left. But free speedh does not include violence and destruction no matter what side is doing it.


These are fun platitudes that I would have, before this thread, assumed about you and everyone else. In reality, it seems, this is an ideal ye cannot live up to.

I am not on the side of Nazis, if there really are Nazis in the USA. But I am also not on the side of Antifa and BLM if that means killing police and creating a riot of violence and destruction.


This is a completely false division, especially since you have spent 100+ pages defending the Nazis in all kinds of different contradictory ways.

You seem to be getting a little too emotional here. Perhaps you should take a feww deep breaths and then count to 100.


More drunk than emotional, which means I don't censor myself as well. Still, that was too strong. Nonetheless, invoking your skygod--especially from a cult that cannot account for 1600 years of its own history--is like invoking something your imaginary friend told you. It is completely irrelevant and seems desperate.

[quote[If you will take a closer look at my answer, you should see that I did present a general view of how I believed the Antifa are an extreme left version of the definition of Nazis facism that want to get rid of Capitalism, and favor a form of Marxism (socialist=m/communism). [/quote]

Your beliefs are irrelevant. Facts are relevant.

Further, Nazism is antithetical to Marxism. Please read the Hitler and Mussolini citations provided above.

Doesn't the extreme left and practically all the left want the goverment to control business, labor wages, healthcare, and many other things that concern the lives of the people?


We don't want any government. The issue at hand--and the difference between anarchists and Marxists--is how to get to that.

The Marxists want to build a system that will fade away as it becomes redundant, and the anarchists see building any system as antithetical to the goal of removing government:

Engels wrote:All Socialists are agreed that the political state, and with it political authority, will disappear as a result of the coming social revolution, that is, that public functions will lose their political character and will be transformed into the simple administrative functions of watching over the true interests of society. But the anti-authoritarians demand that the political state be abolished at one stroke, even before the social conditions that gave birth to it have been destroyed. They demand that the first act of the social revolution shall be the abolition of authority. Have these gentlemen ever seen a revolution? A revolution is certainly the most authoritarian thing there is; it is the act whereby one part of the population imposes its will upon the other part by means of rifles, bayonets and cannon — authoritarian means, if such there be at all; and if the victorious party does not want to have fought in vain, it must maintain this rule by means of the terror which its arms inspire in the reactionists. Would the Paris Commune have lasted a single day if it had not made use of this authority of the armed people against the bourgeois? Should we not, on the contrary, reproach it for not having used it freely enough?


Urban Dictionary Definition of Antifa:


This is a worse way to get political definitions than a dictionary for people that don't know English.

Please use the definitions given by the Nazis themselves, Hitler, and Mussolini if you are unable to understand scholarly sources.

Now please do me the courtesy of explaining how the left fits into the programs of the fascists in general or the Nazis in particular (using actual Nazi and fascist sources) or apologize for making such unfounded and emotional outbursts.
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The Immortal Goon wrote:People walking around with Nazi flags at a rally specifically at:

That call themselves:

Dressed as Nazi Storm troopers:

Giving Nazi salutes:

Carrying Nazi flags:

Lionizing Hitler:

At a rally specifically to unite Nazis (NS is National Socialist, which is what Nazi is short for):

In solidarity with other Nazi groups:

Is probably okay with being called Nazis.

This is probably nothing more than make belief. People do the same thing pretending they are Confederate soldiers, Star War characters, Disney characters, and such.

The Immortal Goon wrote:Using that same logic, you have nothing to fear from your imagined version of Anti-Fa as we are not in Russia.

Nazism is an ideology, not a time and place.

And Antifa is not an ideology? What do you say it is?

The Immortal Goon wrote:True. And Nazism is a specific type of fascist ideology.

Do you think it might say something about this discussion that I chose to use primary historical documents about Nazism and fascism and you used a dictionary for people that don't understand the English language?

Regardless, this in no way means that the Nazis at a Nazi rally aren't Nazis.

You seem not to understand, so I had to come down to your level.

The Immortal Goon wrote:Incidentally, the extreme left ultimately doesn't want a government at all.

Regardless all kinds of ideologies want some kind of government control. The fact you had to stoop to choose this particular one must certainly say something about your Nazi friends.

I don't know any Nazis to make friends with them.

The Immortal Goon wrote:Please cite specific points from the actual platform, not a dictionary for people learning the English language. Surely you understand that the dictionary, and especially the dictionary you are using, is made for simple interpretation and not full understanding.

I thought you needed something simple.

The Immortal Goon wrote:These are fun platitudes that I would have, before this thread, assumed about you and everyone else. In reality, it seems, this is an ideal ye cannot live up to.

And neither can ye.

The Immortal Goon wrote:This is a completely false division, especially since you have spent 100+ pages defending the Nazis in all kinds of different contradictory ways.

I am defending human beings, not Nazis.

The Immortal Goon wrote:More drunk than emotional, which means I don't censor myself as well. Still, that was too strong. Nonetheless, invoking your skygod--especially from a cult that cannot account for 1600 years of its own history--is like invoking something your imaginary friend told you. It is completely irrelevant and seems desperate.

I am Baptist. It goes all the way back to John the Baptist, the one that Baptized Jesus the Christ.

The Immortal Goon wrote:Your beliefs are irrelevant. Facts are relevant.

Further, Nazism is antithetical to Marxism. Please read the Hitler and Mussolini citations provided above.

We don't want any government. The issue at hand--and the difference between anarchists and Marxists--is how to get to that.

The Marxists want to build a system that will fade away as it becomes redundant, and the anarchists see building any system as antithetical to the goal of removing government:

This is a worse way to get political definitions than a dictionary for people that don't know English.

Please use the definitions given by the Nazis themselves, Hitler, and Mussolini if you are unable to understand scholarly sources.

Now please do me the courtesy of explaining how the left fits into the programs of the fascists in general or the Nazis in particular (using actual Nazi and fascist sources) or apologize for making such unfounded and emotional outbursts.

You will not accept my sources and explanations. I don't see that I did anything that bad to have to make an apology. Can't you take a joke? :lol:
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Hindsite wrote:This is probably nothing more than make belief. People do the same thing pretending they are Confederate soldiers, Star War characters, Disney characters, and such.


If your feelings are that people are not Nazis that say they're Nazis, dress like Nazis, dress like Nazis, are acknowledge by other Nazis as being Nazis, fight those who say they're not Nazis then I'm not sure what else I can do to shield your blubbering sad feelings from reality.

And Antifa is not an ideology? What do you say it is?[/quotte]

I specifically mentioned whatever you imagined Anti-Fa was. In this context, let your unfounded feelings of victimhood go wild!

[quote[You seem not to understand, so I had to come down to your level.


Again, I provided primary documents and citations. You provided a dictionary for people that don't speak English :lol:

I don't know any Nazis to make friends with them.


And yet you keep defending them....

And neither can ye.


"Ye" is plural for, "you."

I am defending human beings, not Nazis.


Nazis were humans. This is a pretty poor way to defend Nazis.

I am Baptist. It goes all the way back to John the Baptist, the one that Baptized Jesus the Christ.


And yet you have a 1600 year gap in your cult's history.

You will not accept my sources and explanations. I don't see that I did anything that bad to have to make an apology. Can't you take a joke? :lol:


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#14842420
The Immortal Goon wrote:If your feelings are that people are not Nazis that say they're Nazis, dress like Nazis, dress like Nazis, are acknowledge by other Nazis as being Nazis, fight those who say they're not Nazis then I'm not sure what else I can do to shield your blubbering sad feelings from reality.

Simple, just tell the truth.

The Immortal Goon wrote:Again, I provided primary documents and citations. You provided a dictionary for people that don't speak English :lol:

Those documents do not prove anyone in the Unite the Right rally were Nazis. You need to know the simple definition of Nazis before you can get to the truth. That is why I referred you to a definition for students.

The Immortal Goon wrote:And yet you keep defending them....

I don't see it that way

The Immortal Goon wrote:"Ye" is plural for, "you."

I am glad you found that out.

The Immortal Goon wrote:Nazis were humans. This is a pretty poor way to defend Nazis.

I wasn't defending Nazis. I am not even a lawyer.

The Immortal Goon wrote:And yet you have a 1600 year gap in your cult's history.

What is your proof for this assertion?

Yes, global warming was a hoax, but it had nothing to do with a decrease in pirates.
#14842463
Hindsite wrote:Simple, just tell the truth.


And yet I am. And citations prove this.

Those documents do not prove anyone in the Unite the Right rally were Nazis.


Their self identification as Nazis and use of Nazi symbology do, however.

You need to know the simple definition of Nazis before you can get to the truth. That is why I referred you to a definition for students.


I am quite aware. The primary documents prove this to be so. Your own definition, childish as it was, also proved me correct.

You'll note you have had to drop any specifics.

I don't see it that way


Perhaps this is why you are having so much difficulty. If your own feelings are inconsistent with all established reality, you should probably reevaluate how you see things.

I am glad you found that out.


I am well aware. You seemed to use it incorrectly and didn't want you to feel foolish.

I wasn't defending Nazis. I am not even a lawyer.


Your occupation is irrelevant.

What is your proof for this assertion?


As you have previously stated that you do not believe that Catholics are Christians, I simply extrapolated this to mean that there were no Christians, in your view, for about 1600 years from Christ until the Reformation.

If I am incorrect, please explain.
#14842472
The Immortal Goon wrote:I am well aware. You seemed to use it incorrectly and didn't want you to feel foolish.

I was simply mocking you when yous said, "These are fun platitudes that I would have, before this thread, assumed about you and everyone else. In reality, it seems, this is an ideal ye cannot live up to."

Then I mocked you with:

"And neither can ye."

The Immortal Goon wrote: As you have previously stated that you do not believe that Catholics are Christians, I simply extrapolated this to mean that there were no Christians, in your view, for about 1600 years from Christ until the Reformation.

If I am incorrect, please explain.

I thought I said Roman Catholics, not Catholics.

3. Catholic

a. Of or involving the Roman Catholic Church.
b. Of or relating to the universal Christian church.
c. Of or relating to the ancient undivided Christian church.
d. Of or relating to those churches that have claimed to be representatives of the ancient undivided church.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/catholic

See "Catholic" has more than one meaning. Praise the Lord. HalleluYah
#14842474
Hindsite wrote:I was simply mocking you


Yes. I used the term correctly. It seems that I overestimated a right-winger again when I assumed you were simply ignorant instead childishly lashing out because you had no logical recourse.

I thought I said Roman Catholics, not Catholics.


I'm presuming that you concede all the political points since you neglect to address them.

Further, you are neglecting my last request by trying to make language suit your feelings again. All of those definitions describe the Catholic Church, whose founder was Jesus Christ; who gave the keys to Peter, the first Pope; and whose current pope is Francis.
#14842480
The Immortal Goon wrote:Yes. I used the term correctly. It seems that I overestimated a right-winger again when I assumed you were simply ignorant instead childishly lashing out because you had no logical recourse.

You didn't learn much after all.

The Immortal Goon wrote:I'm presuming that you concede all the political points since you neglect to address them.

I don't see that they are worth addressing, you wouldn't learn anything anyway.

The Immortal Goon wrote:Further, you are neglecting my last request by trying to make language suit your feelings again. All of those definitions describe the Catholic Church, whose founder was Jesus Christ; who gave the keys to Peter, the first Pope; and whose current pope is Francis.

I have a different view. I say Jesus made Peter an Apostle, not a Pope; and the keys were given to all the disciples, not just Peter.

Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
(Matthew 18:18 KJV)

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
(Matthew 28:19 KJV)

And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
(Mark 16:15-16 KJV)

Praise the Lord. HalleluYah
#14842500
Hindsite wrote:You didn't learn much after all.


Seeing as how the primary and secondary sources plainly proved you incorrect, I fail to see what you feel I should have learned.

I don't see that they are worth addressing, you wouldn't learn anything anyway.


Seeing as how the primary and secondary sources plainly proved you incorrect, I fail to see what you feel I should have learned.

I have a different view. I say Jesus made Peter an Apostle, not a Pope; and the keys were given to all the disciples, not just Peter.


Your feeelings must seem very real for you.

This in no way addresses the fact that your cult has a missing 1600 years.
#14842502
The Immortal Goon wrote:This in no way addresses the fact that your cult has a missing 1600 years.


Fake time. Liberals like you wouldn't understand that. A day to God is like a thousand years, so basically, it was practically no time at all after the time of Jesus that true Christianity arrived on the scene.

I am not wearing pants as I type this post. They are neatly folded on the nearby chair. The time is now 1:49 AM.
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