Bulaba Jones wrote:This thread's content speaks for itself: literally insane conspiracy theories (originating from 4chan where they are posted as deliberate lies, and then picked up by idiots who spread those lies elsewhere) and denials of blatant reality.
Nodody is denying that these events occurred. Some of us question the sincerity of the "moral outrage" that you people seem to be engaged in. This "Unite the Right" rally was organized by James Kessler, a man who voted for Barack Obama and attended at least one Occupy Wall Street rally. That's right out of Forrest Gump reasoning: "Then, for no particular reason, I decided to stop voting for the Democrats and attending Occupy Wall Street rallies and become a white supremacist organizer." Really? We're supposed to take all of this seriously?
I did not post anything from 4chan, as I do not read it. I posted a video from YouTube. It's from SonofNewo.
He analyzes a live stream from Ford Fischer. The interesting point is that a live stream is not edited video. Yet, he captures the minivan with no rioters, the Dodge Challenger going in a different direction, and he's between the rioters and the far right people when the "accident" or "terrorist attack" or whatever you want to call it transpires. We can analyze the events, because we have unedited video evidence. That gives us a timeline.
What is it about this video that you don't agree with? Is it that you think the guy probably smells like soap? Is it because he's wears Ralph Lauren and Tommy Hilfiger polos? He even does a walkabout with his own footage.
Bulaba Jones wrote:This thread is not about BLM; there are children going hungry in the US: why aren't you discussing those hungry children in this thread?
This thread is about a State of Emergency being declared in Charlottesville, VA. BLM was there and is part of the reason the State of Emergency was declared. I'm not sure that hungry children are germane to the topic. What is interesting is that the Mayor declared a State of Emergency, while simultaneously asking the police to stand down and do nothing. That is rather peculiar, don't you think?
Lexington wrote:Hundreds of people were there. They saw the car. The car came. There was a murder, a terrorist act, committed.
There was apparently a homicide committed. If it's murder, it hasn't been established as a matter of law yet. The DNC is known for using mentally ill people in their dirty tricks campaigns. Apparently, the driver isn't quite right in the head.
Lexington wrote:Hundreds of people were there in a public place with men and women from the public everywhere. My friend was there. It is utterly impossible for this to have been the conspiracy you are imagining.
A conspiracy is just two or more people committing acts in furtherance of a crime. If we're to assume that this was the intent of the political right to kill people generally, then you have a conspiracy. If it is not a conspiracy, then this guy acted alone. You can't have it both ways. It doesn't matter if your friend was there--a communist Antifa member, BLM cop killer, white supremacist, etc?
Lexington wrote:It is impossible for a conspiracy of this magnitude to be committed.
Conspiracies by definition are of magnitude, because by definition they are not done by a single person.
Lexington wrote:You have chosen to believe or even suggest it because it suits your political interests.
I simply think that these things are staged. Creating an event called "Unite the Right" necessarily takes more than one person. Creating a counter protest also takes more than one person. As you noted, there were hundreds of people there. Why did they come to Charlottesville, VA from all around the country. I did not go to Charlottesville. I didn't know the event was going to transpire. Had I known, I still wouldn't have gone to be supportive of either side. I think they are both fucked. I don't care about either of them. I'm just curious as to why you are so interested in this?
Why would two people in the back seat of a minivan get out of the minivan by crawling up to the front seat and getting out the front doors, when they could just open the sliding door of the minivan? Don't you think that is a little weird?
Lexington wrote:It is embarrassing.
Why are you embarrassed? You seem to have a lot of feelings about this event.
Lexington wrote:Yeah, we're definitely down to conspiracy theories now.
If I were going to posit a conspiracy theory with no evidence to back it up, I would note that the driver's mother is named Samantha Bloom. Then, I would suggest that her name is Jewish, and the mayor is Jewish, and the whole thing is a big Jewish conspiracy.
The headline doesn't scream novelty, does it? "Nazi kills communist." Is that something new? Uh, no. So why do you find this surprising or shocking or whatever?
Thomas Jefferson had a child with his slave, Sally Hemmings. Is Thomas Jefferson not just a slave holder, but a rapist according to modern feminist theory? Should we keep the Jefferson Memorial in Washington, DC? Or should we tear it down? Or, should we consider that Thomas Jefferson thought that black women were attractive, and admire him for crossing racial lines in the late 18th and early 19th centuries? As far as we know, Robert E. Lee didn't rape his slaves. Is that because he was a noble gentleman, or because he was a bad racist and didn't find black women sexually attractive? Should we approve of the Declaration of Independence, knowing that it was written by a white slave holder that raped his slaves?
SpecialOlympian wrote:Blackjack stop quoting me.
Wow. You made a whole post without laughing out loud or finding anything funny.
So what's novel here? A Nazi kills a communist?
"I read a funny story about how the Republicans freed the slaves. The Republicans are the ones who created slavery by law in the 1600's. Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves and he was not a Republican."