jimjam wrote:please post a picture illustrating how the human race can live with the 26,000,000 tons of plastic that are dumped into the ocean annually.
Also a pic illustrating how the human race can live with the many global warming effects such as wild fires, 110 degrees in Spain and even lettuce shortages in Europe
Please post pics of how we are properly growing our crops in a sustainable fashion.
Please post pics of how our communities are being universally built in a cost-effective, environmentally friendly, and space conserving manner?
Don't be daft.
jimjam wrote:Yea, sure we can all live on little squares in Texas and be fed off of a plateau in Africa and go for a walk in the countryside in Somalia but ….. be real. This ain't going to happen.
Its no more impossible than convincing hundreds of disparate nations to pursue mass population controls which have 0% chance of doing anything to help any of the problems you mention.
Hell, you could make a good case that reducing population in places like India would make them even more wasteful, for if their GDP remained constant, less people would cause per capita
wealth to increase and therefore India would became increasingly wasteful and more people could afford more goods and services that are fundamentally destructive of the environment (like more nice cars), in the same way that the west with its declining populations tend to be some of the most wasteful places on earth.
jimjam wrote: the danger to life on planet earth lies not so much with "over population" but with the massive mis management of our resources
Which has been my whole fucking argument this entire thread, thanks for catching up.
jimjam wrote:will not end as the population grows …. it will increase.
Possibly, but their is no reason to believe it will improve by murdering 3 billion people, or whatever you might propose, which is all irrelevant as population is on a radical decreasing trend-rate RIGHT NOW without any wasteful programs to do so artifically. Like sending condoms in UN aid packages to subsaharan Africa which has the lowest population densities on earth.
I mean, what else would you suggest? People in Netherlands pursue a non-traditional lifestyles and childlessness?
They've been doing that for like 100 years
Now they are just importing people that breed at a high rate because their economy is not sustainable without an imported migrant workforce since no one is having kids of ethnic dutch descent.
jimjam wrote: it will increase. Humans are incapable of survival in the long run. We have proven our greed driven incompetence over and over.
No need to get religious, lets stick with facts here before you make yourself sound loony.
jimjam wrote:Here is a Texas that differs from your vision of Texas and …… it's already here (and growing)
Irrelevant, unless you want to mass genocide billions of people because of their being too many pepsi caps floating in the South Pacific....which would be a fun chat no doubt.
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