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Scientists Baffled: Evolution's millions of years crumbling by new discoveries of soft blood tissue in dinosaurs and measureable carbon 14 in their bones.

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The famous, probably nice, but completely cranky New Age crackpot José Argüelles narrowly escaped inclusion in this Encyclopedia in March 2011. No one would of course suspect global warming denialist Dick Armey of being a nice person, but despite his denialism he remains one of the less moronic (though probably not less vile) of the extreme wingnuts, and if he were given an entry we would probably be forced to swamp our Encyclopedia with similar trolls.

We cannot pass over Mark H. Armitage, however. Armitage was an Adjunct Professor of Biology at Azusa Pacific University, a religious college, and received a “Masters Degree” from the regionally unaccredited Institute for Creation Research. Graduate School. Currently Armitage is affiliated with the Creation Research Society, and operates and maintains a working electron microscopy lab there (what a waste of resources), as well as serving on the Board of Directors.

He graduated in May 2007 from Liberty University's School of Education, and is currently a doctoral candidate at Liberty. In short, he has no – and apparently no intention of getting – any actual education. Still, Armitage has actually published in Parasitology Research (Germany) and Microscopy and Analysis (England) as well as in several U.S. Publications. Indeed, he has somehow managed to become president of the Southern California Society for Microscopy and Microanalysis and a member of the American Society of Parasitologists. In other words: real credentials for the Institute of Creation Research (although some of his publications, which have little to do with creationism, have been heavily criticized by real experts).

Of course, what his few real publications are supposed to do, is to confer authority to his other work, such as “Helium Retention in Deep Core Zircons,” a review of radiohalos in granite that CRS claims contains “startling evidence” for a young Earth. That one has not been published in a respected journal. His work on radiohalos (some of it with Andrew Snelling) has instead been published in the Proceedings of the Fifth International Conference on Creationism (ed. R. L. Ivey, Jr.), which is, again, not the same thing as a peer reviewed publication, but more like being accepted for posting at Ken Adachi’s Educateyourself website. Another “research” article is “COMPLEX LIFE CYCLES IN HETEROPHYID TREMATODES: STRUCTURAL AND DEVELOPMENTAL DESIGN IN THE ASCOCOTYLE COMPLEX OF SPECIES”, which contains lots of jargon, an introduction, a discussion … and – predictably – no results and no data (discussed here; Armitage responded rather feebly to the critique). The piece is, in other words, “science” by rhetorics, not research, and pretty typical of creationist publications; instead of developing hypotheses and testing them, Armitage and his ilk revert to JAQing off to facilitate their Gish-galloping and insulate themselves from real criticism.




Armitage has also written the book “Jesus is like my Scanning Electron Microscope” and given it his very own five-star review on Amazon.

Diagnosis: It’s hard to come up with something original for every guy in the long row of creationist blunderheads. Armitage is a loon and a crackpot of (probably) relatively minor importance, and that’s that.
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Suntzu wrote:We cannot pass over Mark H. Armitage, however. Armitage was an Adjunct Professor of Biology at Azusa Pacific University, a religious college, and received a “Masters Degree” from the regionally unaccredited Institute for Creation Research. Graduate School. Currently Armitage is affiliated with the Creation Research Society, and operates and maintains a working electron microscopy lab there (what a waste of resources), as well as serving on the Board of Directors.

He graduated in May 2007 from Liberty University's School of Education, and is currently a doctoral candidate at Liberty. In short, he has no – and apparently no intention of getting – any actual education. Still, Armitage has actually published in Parasitology Research (Germany) and Microscopy and Analysis (England) as well as in several U.S. Publications. Indeed, he has somehow managed to become president of the Southern California Society for Microscopy and Microanalysis and a member of the American Society of Parasitologists. In other words: real credentials for the Institute of Creation Research (although some of his publications, which have little to do with creationism, have been heavily criticized by real experts).

Of course, what his few real publications are supposed to do, is to confer authority to his other work, such as “Helium Retention in Deep Core Zircons,” a review of radiohalos in granite that CRS claims contains “startling evidence” for a young Earth. That one has not been published in a respected journal. His work on radiohalos (some of it with Andrew Snelling) has instead been published in the Proceedings of the Fifth International Conference on Creationism (ed. R. L. Ivey, Jr.), which is, again, not the same thing as a peer reviewed publication, but more like being accepted for posting at Ken Adachi’s Educateyourself website. Another “research” article is “COMPLEX LIFE CYCLES IN HETEROPHYID TREMATODES: STRUCTURAL AND DEVELOPMENTAL DESIGN IN THE ASCOCOTYLE COMPLEX OF SPECIES”, which contains lots of jargon, an introduction, a discussion … and – predictably – no results and no data (discussed here; Armitage responded rather feebly to the critique). The piece is, in other words, “science” by rhetorics, not research, and pretty typical of creationist publications; instead of developing hypotheses and testing them, Armitage and his ilk revert to JAQing off to facilitate their Gish-galloping and insulate themselves from real criticism.

Armitage has also written the book “Jesus is like my Scanning Electron Microscope” and given it his very own five-star review on Amazon.

Diagnosis: It’s hard to come up with something original for every guy in the long row of creationist blunderheads. Armitage is a loon and a crackpot of (probably) relatively minor importance, and that’s that.

More of an Ad Hominem attack than a true diagnosis.
Young-Earth Creationist Wins Lawsuit And Crushes Evolution.

The attorney did not state the exact amount he received but according to The College Fix, he said that it was "a substantial settlement representing about 15 times his annual part-time salary."

CSUN still maintained that Armitage had been fired due to a lack of funding and claimed that it only settled the case to avoid a costly legal battle.

Reinach acknowledged that there was no admission of guilt in the settlement but he believed that the university would not pay a large amount if it did not think it would lose the case.

"The evidence was quite clear," he added. "The stated reasons for saying they fired him were simply not true. There were lies and contradictions abounding from several of the key witnesse," Reinach continued. He said evidence against the campus officials was seen in an email suggesting that Armitage could be eased out of the job by making his position full-time. "Not only did it not support the notion that there was budgetary concerns, but in fact suggested to the contrary," said Reinach.




Fingerprints of Creation

Did you know that scientific evidence abounds to support the biblical accounts of creation and the flood? Were you aware that reports outlining this evidence passed peer review, and were published in the open scientific literature? Have you heard that, decades later, this evidence still stands unrefuted by the scientific community?

An Overview

Etched within Earth's foundation rocks — the granites — are beautiful microspheres of coloration, halos, produced by the radioactive decay of primordial polonium, which is known to have only a fleeting existence.

The following simple analogy will show how these polonium microspheres — or halos — contradict the evolutionary belief that granites formed as hot magma slowly cooled over millions of years. To the contrary, this analogy demonstrates how these halos provide unambiguous evidence of both an almost instantaneous creation of granites and the young age of the earth.

A speck of polonium in molten rock can be compared to an Alka-Seltzer dropped into a glass of water. The beginning of effervescence is equated to the moment that polonium atoms began to emit radiactive particles. In molten rock the traces of those radioactive particles would disappear as quickly as the Alka-Seltzer bubbles in water. But if the water were instantly frozen, the bubbles would be preserved. Likewise, polonium halos could have formed only if the rapidly "effervescing" specks of polonium had been instantly encased in solid rock.

An exceedingly large number of polonium halos are embedded in granites around the world. Just as frozen Alka-Seltzer bubbles would be clear evidence of the quick-freezing of the water, so are these many polonium halos undeniable evidence that a sea of primordial matter quickly "froze" into solid granite. The occurrence of these polonium halos, then, distinctly implies that our earth was formed in a very short time, in complete harmony with the biblical record of creation.

http://www.halos.com/

Reports Dealing with Radiohalos

Gentry, R.V. 1968. "Fossil Alpha-Recoil Analysis of Certain Variant Radioactive Halos." Science 160, 1228. HTML PDF
Gentry, R.V. 1970. "Giant Radioactive Halos: Indicators of Unknown Alpha-Radioactivity?" Science 169, 670. HTML PDF
Gentry, R.V. 1971. "Radiohalos: Some Unique Pb Isotope Ratios and Unknown Alpha Radioactivity." Science 173, 727. PDF
Gentry, R.V. 1973. "Radioactive Halos." Annual Review of Nuclear Science 23, 347. PDF
Gentry, R.V. 1974. "Radiohalos in Radiochronological and Cosmological Perspective." Science 184, 62. HTML PDF
Gentry, R.V. 1975. Response to J.H. Fremlin's Comments on "Spectacle Halos." Nature 258, 269.
Gentry, R.V. 1977. "Mystery of the Radiohalos." Research Communications NETWORK, Breakthrough Report, February 10, 1977. HTML PDF
Gentry, R.V. 1978a. "Are Any Unusual Radiohalos Evidence for SHE?" International Symposium on Superheavy Elements, Lubbock, Texas. New York: Pergamon Press. PDF
Gentry, R.V. 1978b. "Implications on Unknown Radioactivity of Giant and Dwarf Haloes in Scandinavian Rocks." Nature 274, 457. HTML PDF
Gentry, R.V. 1978c. "Reinvestigation of the α Activity of Conway Granite." Nature 273, 217. HTML PDF
Gentry, R.V. 1979. "Time: Measured Responses." EOS Transactions of the American Geophysical Union 60, 474. PDF RTF
Gentry, R.V. 1980. "Polonium Halos." EOS Transactions of the American Geophysical Union 61, 514. HTML PDF
Gentry, R.V. 1982. Letters. Physics Today 35, No. 10, 13.
Gentry, R.V. 1983a. Letters. Physics Today 36, No. 4, 3.
Gentry, R.V. 1983b. Letters. Physics Today 36, No. 11, 124.
Gentry, R.V. 1984a. "Radioactive Halos in a Radiochronological and Cosmological Perspective." Proceedings of the 63rd Annual Meeting of the Pacific Division, American Association for the Advancement of Science 1, 38. HTML PDF
Gentry, R.V. 1984c. Letters. Physics Today 37, No. 4, 108.
Gentry, R.V. 1984d. Letters. Physics Today 37, No. 12, 92.
Gentry, R.V. 1987a. "Radioactive Halos: Implications for Creation." Proceedings of the First International Conference on Creationism, Vol. II, 89. HTML
Gentry, R.V. 1998. "Fingerprints of Creation." Creation Ex Nihilo Technical Journal 12, 287. HTML
Gentry, R.V. et al. 1973. "Ion Microprobe Confirmation of Pb Isotope Ratios and Search for Isomer Precursors in Polonium Radiohalos." Nature 244, 282. HTML PDF
Gentry, R.V. et al. 1974. "'Spectacle' Array of Po-210 Halo Radiocentres in Biotite: A Nuclear Geophysical Enigma." Nature 252, 564. HTML PDF
Gentry, R.V. et al. 1976a. "Radiohalos and Coalified Wood: New Evidence Relating to the Time of Uranium Introduction and Coalification." Science 194, 315. HTML PDF

Reports Dealing with Helium and Lead Retention in Zircons

Gentry, R.V. 1984b. "Lead Retention in Zircons" (Technical Comment). Science 223, 835.
Gentry, R.V. et al. 1982a. "Differential Lead Retention in Zircons: Implications for Nuclear Waste Containment." Science 216, 296. HTML PDF
Gentry, R.V. et al. 1982b. "Differential Helium Retention in Zircons: Implications for Nuclear Waste Containment." Geophysical Research Letters 9, 1129. HTML PDF

http://www.halos.com/reports/index.htm

stephen50right wrote:This news story came out awhile back. I think what they found was fossilized tissue, which is rare to find in a big animal because obviously something such as this usually decays quickly before it gets any chance at all to become fossilized.

You thought wrong. Neither the bones nor the tissues were fossilized. I remember that point well. With a little searching on Google, I am sure you can verify that. The claim of the tissue being fossilized came from evolutionists that were trying to make excuses.

Praise the Lord.
HalleluYah
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Hindsite wrote:More of an Ad Hominem attack than a true diagnosis.




Fingerprints of Creation


http://www.halos.com/


http://www.halos.com/reports/index.htm


You thought wrong. Neither the bones nor the tissues were fossilized. I remember that point well. With a little searching on Google, I am sure you can verify that. The claim of the tissue being fossilized came from evolutionists that were trying to make excuses.

Praise the Lord.
HalleluYah



Well then, it was two different news stories.

If dinosaur fossils were mixed with newer bones, there is an easy explanation for that. Dinosaur fossils are not rare at all. There are billions of them. Without question less than a tiny fraction of dinosaur fossils have been uncovered. They still lay buried in rock waiting for the earth to change to where the fossils are exposed, and then can be discovered and properly removed for display. If the fossils and newer animal bones are there together in the same place, it simply means the newer animal died at the same spot as where some fossils happen to be exposed.

Stop imagining that dinosaurs and newer animals lived at the same time, because they did not, and it is not a debatable point.
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stephen50right wrote:Well then, it was two different news stories.

If dinosaur fossils were mixed with newer bones, there is an easy explanation for that. Dinosaur fossils are not rare at all. There are billions of them. Without question less than a tiny fraction of dinosaur fossils have been uncovered. They still lay buried in rock waiting for the earth to change to where the fossils are exposed, and then can be discovered and properly removed for display. If the fossils and newer animal bones are there together in the same place, it simply means the newer animal died at the same spot as where some fossils happen to be exposed.

Stop imagining that dinosaurs and newer animals lived at the same time, because they did not, and it is not a debatable point.

You must be too young to remember "The Flintstones." These were humans that ride Dinosaurs and use them for work and pets.



Legends of dragons are found among most people groups. For example, there are the stories of Bel and the dragon, the Kulta of Australian aborigines, St. George and the dragon, and of course many Chinese legends. Often, the anatomical descriptions given are consistent, even though they come from separate continents and various times. These depictions match what we know from the fossil evidence of certain dinosaurs. Thus, dinosaurs are known directly from their fossils, and indirectly from cave drawings, tapestries, textiles, figurines, carvings, bas reliefs, and many oral and written eyewitness accounts, most of which are quite old.



Marco Polo was a trader and explorer who spent over 20 years traveling through out Asia, Persia, China, and Indonesia. His travels took place from around 1271-1298.

The following is his account of seeing serpent like dragons, a species of dinosaur:

"Leaving the city of Yachi, and traveling ten days in a westerly direction, you reach the province of Karazan, which is also the name of the chief city....

Here are seen huge serpents, ten paces in length, and ten spans girt of the body. At the fore part, near the head, they have two short legs, having three claws like those of a tiger, with eyes larger than a forepenny loaf (pane da quattro denari) and very glaring."

The jaws are wide enough to swallow a man, the teeth are large and sharp, and their whole appearance is so formidable, that neither man, nor any kind of animal can approach them without terror. Others are met with of a smaller size, being eight, six, or 5 paces long; and the following method is used for taking them. In the day-time, by reason of great heat, they lurk in caverns, from whence, at night, they issue to seek their food, and whatever beast they meet with and can lay hold of, whether tiger, wolf, or any other, they devour;

"After which they drag themselves towards some lake, spring of water, or river, in order to drink. By their motion in this way along the shore, and their vast weight, they make a deep impression, as if a heavy beam had been drawn along the sands. Those whose employment is to hunt them observe the track by which they are most frequently accustomed to go, and fix into the ground several pieces of wood, armed with sharp iron spikes, which they cover with sand in such a manner as not to be perceptible.

When therefore the animals make their way towards the places they usually haunt, they are wounded by these instruments, and speedily killed. The crows, as soon as they perceive them to be dead, set up to scream; and this serves as a signal to the hunters, who advance the spot, and proceed to separate the skin from the flesh, taking care immediately to secure the gall, which is most highly esteemed in medicine.

In cases of the bite of a mad dog, a penny weight of it, dissolved in wine, is administered. It is also useful in accelerating parturition, when the labor pains of women have come on. A small quantity of it being applied to carbuncles, pustules, or other eruptions on the body, they are presently dispersed; and it is efficacious in many other complaints.

The flesh also of the animal is sold at a dear rate, being thought to have a higher flavor than other kinds of meat, and by all persons it is esteemed a delicacy."

(The Travels of Marco Polo, © 1948, Book 2, Chapter XL, pg. 185-186).

Dinosaurs are often portrayed as having lived in a time before man. However, the available evidence shows that man and dinosaur coexisted.

It is amazing that so many reports from across so many cultures throughout the world are ignored by the modern day science. The presupposition that dinosaurs died off millions of years ago totally blinds them to the idea that dinosaurs have always existed with man.

Real Dragon Captured by Fisherman



Dragon Flying Over England



Real Pterosaur spotted over Idaho, USA?



Mysterious Flying Creature In Pennsylvania

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Hindsite wrote:You must be too young to remember "The Flintstones." These were humans that ride Dinosaurs and use them for work and pets.



Legends of dragons are found among most people groups. For example, there are the stories of Bel and the dragon, the Kulta of Australian aborigines, St. George and the dragon, and of course many Chinese legends. Often, the anatomical descriptions given are consistent, even though they come from separate continents and various times. These depictions match what we know from the fossil evidence of certain dinosaurs. Thus, dinosaurs are known directly from their fossils, and indirectly from cave drawings, tapestries, textiles, figurines, carvings, bas reliefs, and many oral and written eyewitness accounts, most of which are quite old.



Marco Polo was a trader and explorer who spent over 20 years traveling through out Asia, Persia, China, and Indonesia. His travels took place from around 1271-1298.

The following is his account of seeing serpent like dragons, a species of dinosaur:


(The Travels of Marco Polo, © 1948, Book 2, Chapter XL, pg. 185-186).

Dinosaurs are often portrayed as having lived in a time before man. However, the available evidence shows that man and dinosaur coexisted.

It is amazing that so many reports from across so many cultures throughout the world are ignored by the modern day science. The presupposition that dinosaurs died off millions of years ago totally blinds them to the idea that dinosaurs have always existed with man.

Real Dragon Captured by Fisherman



Dragon Flying Over England



Real Pterosaur spotted over Idaho, USA?



Mysterious Flying Creature In Pennsylvania




You having Che Guevara as your avatar, who as we all know was a far leftist murderer, might explain your interest in dinosaurs. In America, far leftist ideas are becoming extinct, and thank goodness for that.
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stephen50right wrote:You having Che Guevara as your avatar, who as we all know was a far leftist murderer, might explain your interest in dinosaurs. In America, far leftist ideas are becoming extinct, and thank goodness for that.

I did not pick the Che Guevara avatar for his far left political view, but because he looks very much like one of my sons, who died at age 44 of acute cardiac and respiratory failure.
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Hindsite wrote:I did not pick the Che Guevara avatar for his far left political view, but because he looks very much like one of my sons, who died at age 44 of acute cardiac and respiratory failure.


Didn't Che die young, too?

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