Atlantis wrote:Thus, there is free choice. To believe in the deterministic finite universe is also a free choice. The arguments in favour may be compelling from our point of view, but ultimately the idea of a finite universe doesn’t hold true.
Wait, when did I say anything about free-will? Also, free-will is limited by several factors. Can 1+1=3, is it a choice? I'm not sure how a cosmological Ad infinitum
negates the fact that you're a finite expression of the universe. Again, I'm not saying the universe is finite, I'm saying that the human experience is finite, and it's a side-effect or expression of 'what is.'
Consciousness doesn't belong to you, it doesn't belong to anything
happens simultaneously, and you're a living expression of that consciousness. So you see, there is no choice in the matter. As finite expressions, we're limited by 'what is,'
and being present creates an information bias. As an analogy, play a game of Go,
you'll discover that 'liberty'
is confined and defined by 'what is.'
Did your post cause my reply? I could have written what I wrote without your post. I could not have replied to your post. I could have replied something different ...
I'm not going to claim that I understand the cause, but surely something caused it, for I can perceive its effect. To be or not to be
seems like a reasonable compromise, albeit it's a form of reconciliation- deterministic choice defined by the boundaries of 'being'
Your reasoning “on the material or biological level” may produce a model of evolution, but that model may also collapse like the model of the flat Earth when looked at it from another perspective.
And tell me, Atlantis, what perspective would that be?
But when we look deeper into matter, we find that quantum physics suggests a worldview that puts into question the very existence of matter, the big bang and evolution, which coincides with a view of the world that is not finite and not deterministic.
Read carefully, I said- Biologically, evolution is occurring through physical expressions of consciousness. Consciousness comes before the physical manifestation of 'things.'
Reality is layered, one layer infinite, one layer finite (hence quantum decoherence), creating a spectrum of experience. You're infinite consciousness having a finite human experience.As for everything having a purpose... I challenge you to bring something to my attention that doesn't have a purpose.