[AFAIK]

The flooding of low lying island nations has indeed been locked in since the year 2000. The question has always been how bad it is going to get.

[BlutoSays]

By the time that was published, climatology had already made fun of it, and moved on.

Seriously, you have more ways to be wrong than Carter has Little Liver Pills.

I understand you like to minimize what happens after the fact and you'll make up poetry to try to change history, but NO.

You leftist morons always need a boogeyman to facilitate the transfer of wealth.

Like I've said before, the DNC platform is a very close copy of the Communist Manifesto. Take from one group and give to another.

"From each according to his its* abilities, to each according to his its* needs." - The modern day Democrat National Committee



* legend

[late]

I understand you like to minimize what happens after the fact and you'll make up poetry to try to change history, but NO.

No, you never understand. I would love to describe you more accurately, but it would likely get me banned.

The popular media loved it, but it was just a few scientific papers that were knocked hard, some even had to be retracted. The scientists involved took a beating.

It was NEVER mainstream science, much less the position of climatology as a whole.

[ckaihatsu]

I understand you like to minimize what happens after the fact and you'll make up poetry to try to change history, but NO.

You leftist morons always need a boogeyman to facilitate the transfer of wealth.

'Transfer of wealth' is a bit *facile*, because it plays into right-wing attempts to *criminalize* politics itself.

'Transfer of wealth' also implies 'new ownership', and that's *not* what socialism and communism are about.

Like I've said before, the DNC platform is a very close copy of the Communist Manifesto. Take from one group and give to another.

"From each according to his its* abilities, to each according to his its* needs." - The modern day Democrat National Committee



* legend

I've covered this slogan in the past:

[T]he Soviet Union adapted the formula as: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his work (labour investment)".[21] This was incorporated in Article 12 of the 1936 Constitution of the Soviet Union, but described by Leon Trotsky as "This inwardly contradictory, not to say nonsensical, formula". [22]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_each ... _his_needs

I'll expand on this to say that I'm critical of *this* approach:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He_who_do ... all_he_eat


The reason being, again, our current advanced state of productive technology, which enormously leverages human labor to great productive outputs. Obviously one person in a factory produces far more per hour of work than they could possibly consume over the same period of time -- mass production. How is this technological bounty of goods (and services) to be distributed in our present-day?

Karl Marx, in a section of his Grundrisse that came to be known as the "Fragment on Machines",[22][23] argued that the transition to a post-capitalist society combined with advances in automation would allow for significant reductions in labor needed to produce necessary goods, eventually reaching a point where all people would have significant amounts of leisure time to pursue science, the arts, and creative activities; a state some commentators later labeled as "post-scarcity".[24] Marx argued that capitalism—the dynamic of economic growth based on capital accumulation—depends on exploiting the surplus labor of workers, but a post-capitalist society would allow for:

The free development of individualities, and hence not the reduction of necessary labour time so as to posit surplus labour, but rather the general reduction of the necessary labour of society to a minimum, which then corresponds to the artistic, scientific etc. development of the individuals in the time set free, and with the means created, for all of them.[25]

Marx's concept of a post-capitalist communist society involves the free distribution of goods made possible by the abundance provided by automation.[26] The fully developed communist economic system is postulated to develop from a preceding socialist system. Marx held the view that socialism—a system based on social ownership of the means of production—would enable progress toward the development of fully developed communism by further advancing productive technology. Under socialism, with its increasing levels of automation, an increasing proportion of goods would be distributed freely.[27]

Marx did not believe in the elimination of most physical labor through technological advancements alone in a capitalist society, because he believed capitalism contained within it certain tendencies which countered increasing automation and prevented it from developing beyond a limited point, so that manual industrial labor could not be eliminated until the overthrow of capitalism.[28] Some commentators on Marx have argued that at the time he wrote the Grundrisse, he thought that the collapse of capitalism due to advancing automation was inevitable despite these counter-tendencies, but that by the time of his major work Capital: Critique of Political Economy he had abandoned this view, and came to believe that capitalism could continually renew itself unless overthrown.[29][30][31]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-scarcity_economy

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[BlutoSays]

[ckaihatsu]

You're thinking of *non*-proletarian, statist *Stalinism* -- maybe ask *Fasces* about that.

[Steve_American]

My.my. my.

This thread has gotten far from using iron to fertilize the oceans to make plants grow to absorb CO2.

[Skynet]

iron to fertilize the oceans to make plants grow to absorb CO2.

This will work it is better then diming the sunlight, because it is easier to controle. When it gets to cold we the mankind simply can stop dumping irondust in the ocean.

Aerosols in the stratosphere are far more complicated to remove.


The global temperature is in average 15 degree Celsius. The world wants to limit this by +2,5°,

5° less and we have Ice Age (10°)

even 2,5° is too much (17,5 °)

[ckaihatsu]

WaveSwell PowerUp

How Cheap Hydrogen Could Become the Next Clean Fuel

[Skynet]

I think floating nuclear powerplants would be a solution for Africa:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_f ... er_station

There is also an European Start up:

https://www.nucnet.org/news/denmark-s-s ... s-6-3-2022