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Puffer Fish wrote:
Over the past 36 years, the Amazon rainforest region has lost 10 percent of its native vegetation, mostly tropical rainforest, an area nearly the size of Texas. Most of it is in Brazil but also other surrounding countries.



Because the topsoil is thin and weak in nutrients, much of the Amazon could go from jungle to semi-arid desert.
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Countries with lots of poverty, like Indonesia and Brazil, usually do care that much about the rainforest. The bigger priority for them is trying to create economic opportunity for their people.
Even though much of this is not sustainable in the long-term. (But we can see the end result of this deforestation in some countries, and the people end up worse off. That may not be until 100 years later)

Caring about the environment and rainforest is kind of more of a luxury for wealthier countries to worry about.
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Puffer Fish wrote:
Countries with lots of poverty, like Indonesia and Brazil, usually do care that much about the rainforest. The bigger priority for them is trying to create economic opportunity for their people.
Even though much of this is not sustainable in the long-term. (But we can see the end result of this deforestation in some countries, and the people end up worse off. That may not be until 100 years later)

Caring about the environment and rainforest is kind of more of a luxury for wealthier countries to worry about.



How about government incentives to encourage people *away from* slash-and-burn agriculture -- !
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Puffer Fish wrote:
Government in Brazil, or government in all those White English speaking and wealthy Western European countries?



Government in Brazil primarily, but with global involvement:



Environment and climate change

Brazil has the world's largest tropical rainforest in the Amazon basin. According to The Washington Post, "Bolsonaro is a powerful supporter of agribusiness [...] and is likely to favor profits over preservation. [...] Bolsonaro has chafed at foreign pressure to safeguard the Amazon rainforest, and he served notice to international nonprofit groups such as the World Wildlife Fund that he will not tolerate their agendas in Brazil. He has also come out strongly against lands reserved for indigenous tribes. Bolsonaro advisers additionally say that he plans to expand nuclear and hydroelectric power into the Amazon."[20]

Bolsonaro rejects the scientific consensus on climate change. He repeatedly threatened to withdraw from the Paris Agreement during his campaign.[244][245] Even before taking office, he backed out of Brazil's offer to host the 2019 UN Climate Change Conference.[246] Ernesto Araújo, the new Minister of Foreign Affairs appointed by Bolsonaro, has called global warming a plot by "cultural Marxists"[247] and eliminated the Climate Change Division of the ministry.[245] Two departments of the Ministry of the Environment dealing with climate change in Brazil and mitigation and one dealing with deforestation were also eliminated.[245]

In April 2019, the American Museum of Natural History canceled an event honoring Bolsonaro after facing heavy public criticism, including from New York Mayor Bill de Blasio. The museum's directorate justified its decision in a statement, "With mutual respect for the work and goals of our organizations, we jointly agreed that the Museum is not the optimal location for the Brazilian-Am. Chamber of Commerce gala dinner. This traditional event will go forward at another location on the original date and time."[248] Bolsonaro supported plans to open the Reserva Nacional do Cobre e Associados (Renca) Amazonian reserve in Brazil's northern states of Pará and Amapá to commercial mining.[249]

Destruction of the Amazon rainforest increased by 88% for the month of June 2019, during Bolsonaro's first year as president, as compared with the previous year, according to National Institute for Space Research (INPE). Bolsonaro rejected the agency's data as false. The INPE director was fired after he rebutted Bolsonaro's criticism of the institute.[250][251][252][253] The Bolsonaro administration decreased government efforts to combat illegal logging, ranching and mining in the Amazon. Government enforcement actions such as fines, warnings and the confiscation or destruction of illegal equipment in protected areas decreased by 20% in the first half of 2018 compared to the first half of 2017.[254]



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jair_Bols ... ate_change
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A convergence of three factors has reportedly left parts of Brazil's Amazon River at their lowest levels in 120 years, with unrecognizable before-and-after aerial photos of the waterway serving as a wake-up call.

Meghie Rodrigues of the scientific journal Nature reported on November 14, 2023 that deforestation, unusually warm waters in the northern Atlantic Ocean, and an El Niño climate pattern are contributing to a historic drought.

Unrecognizable aerial before-and-after photos of major river sound ‘global alarm bell’, by Susan Elizabeth Turek, The Cool Down 12-8-2023

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