[Boondock Saint]

Better known as the Bradely fighting vehicle or just 'Bradley' ...

I would like this thread to be dedicated to light armor, not tanks ... but light armor.

Since I am a Yank I offer you the M2.

General Characteristics (M2 Bradley)
Length: 21 ft 2 in (6.55 m)
Width: 11.83 ft (3.6 m)
Height: 11.8 ft (3.59 m)
Weight: 50,000 lb (22.7 t) unloaded; 67,000 lb (30.4 t) loaded
Speed: Road: 38 mph (66 km/h)
Off-road: -
Water: 7.2 km/h
Range: 250 miles (483 km)
Primary armament: 25 mm Chain Gun
TOW Anti-Tank Missile
Secondary armament: 7.62 mm machine gun
Power plant: 600 hp (447 kW) diesel engine
Crew: 3 + (6 passengers)





LINK

So, toss up your nations light armor or perhaps your favorite light armored vehicle instead ...

You can go back as far as WWI if you like.

The only question in this thread is ... Can your choice defeat a Bradley?

[Russkie]

that M2 can be easilly destroyed by a RPG. I tested M2s on simulators before, with a direct hit from a RPG. And RPGs are as cheap as the Ak-47 safe to assume.

[Boondock Saint]

Russkie

Thank you for completly fucking NOT following the topic.

i should red card you for fucking with my thread.

[MB.]

NOT tanks you say?

Light armor you say?

STRYKER I SAY!!

[Smilin' Dave]

Well since no one else will put something forward: BMP-3

Crew 3
Troop Capacity 7 passengers
Combat Weight (mt) 18.70
Chassis Length Overall (m) 6.73
Height Overall (m) 2.45
Width Overall (m) 3.15
Speed (km/h) Max Road 70 (Off-Road 45)
Armament: Short 100mm gun w/ coaxial 30mm chaingun and 7.62 MG. Standard variety can fire AT 10 'Stabber', 1995 model can fire AT14 'Kornet' missiles (which can carry thermobaric warheads) and the chaingun ammo can be sabot rounds.
Protection: Options for ARENA (or related system) or ERA (not a popular option)

Information courtesy of fas.org. Go bug them for a picture.

I like the combination of the 100mm gun (for lobbing HE shells when needed) and the 30mm chaingun (for more general fire support). It seems a good combination for an infantry support vehicle. The missiles are irrelevant to me, I never understood the point of giving the missile to the vehicle instead of the squad.

Do I think this could beat a bradley? No idea. The bradley is probably better armoured, but the AT14 supposedly has a longer range than the TOW. Then again, crew quality is on the US side and I imagine the bradley would have an advantage in C3 by virtue of better electronic equipment.

[jaakko]

I would've also mentioned the BMP-3. You forgot to mention one weapon; 30mm AGS-17 grenade launcher, which I think the BMP-3M has.

The bradley is probably better armoured

Both have about the same armour protection. BMP-3 can be added with reactive armour and also with the ARENA missile defence system.

But my nation's? Well, Finland has BMP-1s and BMP-2s, mostly from the former GDR. I like the way they look. But the newest IFV is the CV9030S from Sweden, partially assembled in Finland:

The only downside is the lack of ATGM launcher, but I don't think it really matters that much. The 30mm gun is good enough against most light vehicles and against an MBT it's usually better to have the missile launcher to be operated on foot.

What comes to the wheeled, Finland has some of it's own production.

SISU XA-180
http://tietokannat.mil.fi/kalustoesitte ... XA-180.jpg

XA-185
http://tietokannat.mil.fi/kalustoesitte ... -185II.JPG

Patria XA-203


Patria AMV


It's probable that different turrets for the latter will be developed. For example, the AMOS grenade launcher:

http://tietokannat.mil.fi/kalustoesitte ... 0_amos.jpg

[Boondock Saint]

BMP-3M



Mean looking, the profile seems so feckin low ...

[PolarBear]

T-90/S MBT

Weight (tons): 46,5
Speed (km/h): 60
Dimensions (m): 9'530/6'860 x 3'460 x 2'226
M./Engine: Diesel B84MC, twin stroke, multi-fuel, 6-cyl; 840 hp
Crew: 3
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/t): 18.68
Ground pressure (kg/sm2): 0.87
Fuel capacity (L): 1'600
Range (km): 650/500
fording (m): 1.2/5.0
Armament: 1 x 125 mm smoothborne gun
inline barr. AT + SA missiles
1 x 7,62 mm MG coaxial
1 x 12,7 mm AA MG
gun loading: a/m; stabilization: v/h; stowage: 43/28; coax.: 2'000;
AA- 300; elevation/depres.: 5'4/ 13';
type of rounds: APFSDS HE-FRAG HEAT Guided missile

[Boondock Saint]

Light Armor

I would like this thread to be dedicated to light armor, not tanks ... but light armor.

And PolarBear decides to post the stats and a pic of a T-90. This thread was specifically meant to NOT be about MBT's as would be specified by the threads title and one of the very first lines of the feckin first thread!

Then of course you can look through the thread abit and realize 'hey, you know what? This thread is about LIGHT armor ...'

[MB.]

RUSSIANS PWN YANKEESSS!!!


LOOK< all they have is those little m2 suxorz tanks- russians have the T90!!!111eleven



U suck boon!.


(Or, adversaly, the T-90 is light armor. In which case, I've been reading the wrong books all along...)