[Comrade Ogilvy]

Does anybody have numbers on how many soldiers the US have operational? I mean that they can send to countries like Iraq by matter of days? I would like to have a list on Marines, US Army, Navy, AirForce etc.
Thank you

[Comrade Ogilvy]

1,152,297 grunts, 216,445 officers. Grand total of 1,368,641 souls. Give or take. That they can actually get to Iraq in "A matter of days"?

If they had to, maybe a half million troops. If they had to. It wouldn't be pretty, and the logisitical support would be spotty, but asses on the ground? Sure.

In practical terms of what they might actually do? Maybe a 100,000. If a serious effort was put in to get them there fast.

Why?

By service breakdown:

405,600 Army grunts, 73,420 officers.
269,611 Air Force jockeys, 65,443 officers.
160,397 of God's own Marines, and 16,058 fine men to lead them.
292,841 Navy mules, and 55,731 officers to drive the wrong way for 2 days before turning around.

The rest is Coast Guard. If you don't think they should count as military, you've never seen them sink some drug runners boats.

[Comrade Ogilvy]

The rest is Coast Guard. If you don't think they should count as military, you've never seen them sink some drug runners boats.

They now buy speed boats from my backyard here in Washington NC, from Fountain Power Boats. The cartels started buying them and were outrunning the coast-gaurd so now the USCG buys them too. They are some sweet boats.

[Comrade Ogilvy]

Yeah, they've been using that and helicopters for the serious guys. Nothing like a helicopter at sea to make your day suck that much more.

[Comrade Ogilvy]

BobSally, do you got a job in the army?

Thank you for the information. It was alot more then I thought. Pretty impressive. But what about those who are known to artillery, tanks etc. where do they fit in, in that list?

Do you know a website where I can find the numbers of soldiers, how much they use on military expenditure etc. in other countries?

[Comrade Ogilvy]

Do you know a website where I can find the numbers of soldiers, how much they use on military expenditure etc. in other countries

I know what you are getting at but you have to realize that many times we are basically the "policemen" of the world, and we have a number of troops in Europe, Asia and elsewhere as a war deterrent- not an occupation (in the usual sense) We could pull all of our troops out of Europe right now and let the Europeans completely pay for their own defense (I wish) If that ever did happen I guarantee that the all the money that Europe sends as international aid that they are so proud of would shrink dramatically in favor of defense.

So please don't take your information and make some half ass assumptions and accusations without looking at the big picture, but you will do what you will do.

[Unperson-S]

Europe is plenty capable of defending itself without american 'aid'. European countries are all experinced in war dealing. By European standards the US is just a new kid on the block, for hundreds of years Europe ruled the world. Although not as powerful as it once was, we have the experience in wageing war.

For instance, France is one of the most powerful nations in the world, not in numbers, but certainly in technology. Europe's armies are more specialised in secret parts of the military, like the SAS for example. Europeans do know how to defend themselves. And anyway, I dont know anyone in my area that likes having american Hornets flying around theyre houses doing loop-the-loops. The Americans should go back home, they shouldnt interfere with things the other side of the Atlantic, and also, then attack Middle-Eastern Countries. Soon America will find itself strained, and realise it has spread itself out too far and wide. And some 'rogue' nations will probably attack America, leaving it weak, and countries will once again be free from attack because of change...

[Piano Red]

Europe is plenty capable of defending itself without american 'aid'.

How's it going to do that exactly? It surely was capable of handling the Bosnian conflict and Kosovo without U.S. support wasn't it? Did Europe do most of the work in defending itself during the Cold War? I think not.

European countries are all experinced in war dealing. By European standards the US is just a new kid on the block, for hundreds of years Europe ruled the world. Although not as powerful as it once was, we have the experience in wageing war.

Europe is an old lady that has long since passed it's glory days my friend. The colossal European armies and navies are all but gone having destroyed one another in WWI and once again in the WWII. Europe's military strength has never been the same since then and up to today it has been the U.S. that has povided for Europe's defense.

The U.S. may be the new kid on the block but we've learned very quickly thanks to WWII and the the Cold War. So much so that we've already surpassed Europe on nearly in nearly every spot of the military spectrum.

For instance, France is one of the most powerful nations in the world, not in numbers, but certainly in technology.

Not trying to put you down or anything but that's just not right, France comes no where near the U.S. in terms of military capability, that's a given fact that I shouldn't need to give proof of.

Europe's armies are more specialised in secret parts of the military, like the SAS for example. Europeans do know how to defend themselves.

First of all i'd just like to state that although G.B. is apart of the EU, the British have never considered themselves to be European throughout history. However you are correct when you say that the SAS are the best special forces a nation can have, although Israeli special forces would probably be on par with them.

And anyway, I dont know anyone in my area that likes having american Hornets flying around theyre houses doing loop-the-loops. The Americans should go back home, they shouldnt interfere with things the other side of the Atlantic, and also, then attack Middle-Eastern Countries. Soon America will find itself strained, and realise it has spread itself out too far and wide. And some 'rogue' nations will probably attack America, leaving it weak, and countries will once again be free from attack because of change...

Do you think we like having to keep the burden of sending troops abroad? I too would like to see U.S. troops come home but the fact is that they have to in order to maintain global security and the U.S. has already begun to reach it's limits in doing this.

[Crazy Brown Guy]

If US pulls out of Europe, that would be a huge tactical error. With the bases in Europe the US government have the ability to launch attacks and control that region from any hostiles, therefore US military superiority will diminish in that part of the world, if they pull out.

BTW. Europe is not that powerful, don’t compare past success to present situation. Truth is overall US military is superior to Europe. It’s also true that if US pulls out, Europeans’ aid to poor countries will drop dramatically, and no one will fill that position.

Overall US pulling out of Europe is a bad idea.

[Sponge Bob Square Pants]

I am not sure who Europe needs defending against at the moment, but U.S. dispositions are much smaller than they were in the cold war.

The US gets criticised when for example it goes into a country yet when chaos breaks out in another eveyone yels, "where s the US".

What I dont understand is why Britain has to tag along too.

[Comrade Ogilvy]

The only ones that Europe has to worry about is the US, Russia, China, , Israel, England, India and Pakistan.

[TROI]

'England' isn't a country

[Comrade Ogilvy]

The only ones that Europe has to worry about is the US, Russia, China, , Israel, England, India and Pakistan.

The only one of these that Europe would possibly have to worry about is Russia, which is in no position to attack these days.

You left out Reserves and the National Guard, BobSally. I'll ignore the National Guard, as they serve in state roles as well and are generally not as professional as active duty soldiers and reservists are.

RESERVES
Army: 1,060,990 (798,270 enlisted, 262,720 officers)
Air Force: 261,957 (unsure of enlisted/officer breakdown)
Navy: 300,614 (unsure of enlisted/officer breakdown)

The Navy numbers include the Marine Corps (I think...).

[Comrade Ogilvy]

'England' isn't a country

I see, it's a village.

[Boondock Saint]

I'll ignore the National Guard, as they serve in state roles as well and are generally not as professional as active duty soldiers and reservists are.

NG has combar roles in Iraq and Bosnia and I would imagine Afghanistan. The recieve 4-5 months pre-deployment training before being sent over seas ...

There is no reason not to include the national guard when forming a summary of the US military.

I see, it's a village.

England is no more a country then is New York. I would imagine that England would be best described as a province ... perhaps akin to a state like those found in the US. The UK is the name of the nation that England belongs to.

And why is this in the vehicles section?

[Comrade Ogilvy]

NG has combar roles in Iraq and Bosnia and I would imagine Afghanistan. The recieve 4-5 months pre-deployment training before being sent over seas ...

There is no reason not to include the national guard when forming a summary of the US military.

The REAL reason I ignored the Guard is because I couldn't find their numbers quickly and didn't feel like searching deeper.

[Comrade Ogilvy]

why is this in the vehicles section?

Smith moved it.

[Sponge Bob Square Pants]

England is no more a country then is New York. I would imagine that England would be best described as a province ... perhaps akin to a state like those found in the US. The UK is the name of the nation that England belongs to.

England is a nation which forms part of a union.

[Yeddi]

England is a nation which forms part of a union.

Yep, a "State" would be a county like Kent, Sussex... etc.

Though of course you arlready knew that Billy being a Pom n all.

[Milorg]

the only place as far as i know where they use states as a definition of parts of a nationstate is the US and Australia. Most other countries have counties or some derivation thereof.