[MB.]

Alot of people in the "West" believe that the Soviet Union had a part in starting the WWII, which is ridiculers!

[Potemkin]

The Soviet Union was desperate to avoid a war for which it was not ready. The Molotov-Rippentrop Pact is evidence of this. It was Stalin's last option to prevent a Nazi attack.

[Goldberk]

It was Stalin's last option to prevent a Nazi attack.

True, but Stalin was also interested in strengthening his influence in eastern europe, the pact was a route to this.

[Potemkin]

True, but Stalin was also interested in strengthening his influence in eastern europe, the pact was a route to this.

Indeed. I am merely pointing out, however, that Stalin did not contribute to starting WWII, since a war was the very thing he was desperate to avoid, or at least to delay for as long as he could.

[peter_co]

MB, I'm quite confused about the OP. Is it supposed to be an allusion to Russia's legislation against "falsification of history" or what?

[W01f]

Every European power contributed to the circumstances that lead to Poland's invasion in '39, including Poland itself. But without these circumstances, others would have arose and lead to bloody war regardless. To take any amount of blame off of Germany and place it onto any other country is asinine. Hitler was the genocidal maniac with the world's most powerful military standing behind him, not anyone else.

Without the Molotov-Rippentrop Pact Hitler probably would have invaded the Soviet Union much earlier, and if that were the case his chances of success were very good. That would have left the rest of Europe infinitely more helpless than they were with the more prepared Soviet Union of '41 absorbing the majority of Hitler's resources.

[MB.]

To be honest, I don't know what this thread is about.

[secator553]

And alot of people in the "East" believe that Britain and France have encouraged Hitler to attack the USSR, and even gave him Czechoslovakia, but they miscalculated.
In Russia, pov of the Munich Pact is the same as pov of the Molotov-Ribentropp pact in the west

[Smilin' Dave]

To be honest, I don't know what this thread is about.

Well despite this some good has come of the discussion so I'm going to leave it alone (with new, more explanatory title).