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I am a documentary film maker and I believe that modern day accepted version of history is faith based nonsense religion. It is very hard to almost impossible to predict what happened long ago in the past even as late as a few decades ago historical accounts are mostly assumptions and wild guesses. To further illustrate my point I made a documentary about world war II that shows it through an alternative lens yet remains as accurate as any other modern day counter part even though the accounts are radically different. For all we know History played out completely differently then we realize and in all likely hood it did.
Have you actually watched it, @Potemkin?
Prosthetic Conscience wrote:I think this becomes true art when Hitler accepts Walt Disney's invitation of a vacation at Disneyworld, to relax from the hard work of fighting a war against the USA.
Potemkin wrote:Indeed. As Napoleon Bonaparte once said, history is merely a pack of lies on which everyone agrees. The point is that, in order to 'understand' history, we must construct a narrative out of it. And like any narrative, our own chosen historical narrative can only exist by omitting awkward facts or events which don't 'fit in' with that narrative. In other words, the past gets edited and censored until we can make sense of it. History, in that sense, is written by the victors and one of its functions is to act as a retrospective justification of the actions of the victors. As Churchill famously put it, "History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it." Until it gets retrospectively edited and reshaped, the past is just a bunch of stuff that happened. Once our chosen narrative has been constructed out of it, then it becomes history, from which the appropriate 'lessons' can be drawn.
quetzalcoatl wrote:Okay, I can go along with all this as long as we agree to certain ground rules. You can only use shit that actually happened, not shit you make up. Also, whatever criteria you use to include or exclude certain events has to be consistent throughout.
Eamonor wrote:I have recently becoming quite engrossed in how the history of World War 2 has been misrepresented and so this discussion is very interesting to me. I have a lot of questions about the Documentary though as there seems to be a lot of things which seem very unlikely and I would appreciate some citations even from some non-mainstream sources.
On the subject though I was blown away by, "the greatest story never told" on YouTube.
I would like to hear some opinions from people who might be more well versed on the subject, because although the Documentary makes a lot of sense I don't want to be sucked into
something with a lot of factual errors.
“He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them. But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion... Nor is it enough that he should hear the opinions of adversaries from his own teachers, presented as they state them, and accompanied by what they offer as refutations. He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.”
― John Stuart Mill, On Liberty
ThirdTerm wrote:What's unreasonable about movie plot is that Trotsky was in charge of defending St. Petersburg. Trotsky died in 1940 after years of exile and he would have been assassinated by Stalin, if he had stayed within the Soviet Union. Lenin had also been long dead by the time the Germans invaded the Soviet Union in 1939 and Lenin would have chosen Trotsky as his successor over Stalin, had he been alive.
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