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The Second World War (1939-1945).
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By Melar
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If I wasn't here, you could just watch TV instead of coming here to ask questions. You'd be edjumificated and stuff. But since you're here, and I'm here, below is a recent reply of mine to another thread of similar kind.

You must understand that people here don't mean to sound ignorant, they are simply responding the way they have been taught to respond. In their blind trust in state-approved authority figures, they never bothered to examine the evidence, to find out whether the information they had been told to memorize was accurate or not. They are only telling you what they have heard from sources they, for reasons that are beyond me, consider worthy of their trust.

You would get the same exact results if you were a teacher in a public school conducting exams. "Oh, just answer the questions based on the information we told you to memorize. Good girls."

They think they are the first generation of unbiased humans, and everybody before them was wrong or simply evil. It's all about them, after all. The moral ground they're standing on is so high you can't even see them.

If you want to actually know something about National Socialism, I recommend the following books, which you can read freely at the below addresses.

From the horse's mouth (a classic and easily accessible work by Dietrich Eckart):

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/Eckart.htm

The first few chapters of Mein Kampf are also an essential read for anyone thinking himself educated:

http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200601.txt

The above is a reliable 1939 English translation.

The following collection of edited lectures is perhaps the most accurate and up-to-date book on the Holocaust:

http://anantiblog.files.wordpress.com/2 ... f-loth.pdf

The following tome is one of the few histories of the Second World War which their writers attempted to make accurate and objective:

"The Origins of the Second World War" by A.J.P. Taylor

You might also wish to look into the Pearl Harbor and USS Liberty incidents, and of course the assassinations of the Kennedies. When the establishment still can't afford to tell the truth about the assassination of JFK, but instead keeps actively deceiving the public, you'd have to be pretty dumb to trust anything they tell you, anything at all, without finding out for yourself, thinking for yourself, drawing your own conclusions, sympathizing with those who merit sympathy; not being afraid to have your own views on things even when they offend somebody or hurt someone's feelings, challenge existing orthodoxy, in some way go against social mores or upset social taboos on information.

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but within are ravening wolves. By their fruits ye shall know them."
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By Verv
#1649716
One thing that was not touched on...

Hitler also explained in the first volume of Mein Kampf that he believed in essentially meritocracy.

His goal was to elevate the most intelligent people to the highest levels; this is partly why all schools were public and there were many elite schools/organizations for intelligent, athletic Aryans.

He felt it was a sham that people with money/connections could go further in life than naturally smart people who did not have the same opporutnities. This was fundamental to a lot of views he had on domestic politics.

His approach to the economy was simply calling up the best economist he could find, Dr. Schacht, and essentially giving him total power to do whatever he wanted that was within the interests of building the wehrmacht and bettering the society as a whole.
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By Arthur2sheds_Jackson
#1649736
Far Right Sage wrote:
Don't read Mein Kampf.

It's so boring it could send a glass eye to sleep.

If you're not familiar with the history, territorial legacy, and ethnic politics of the era, yes.

Alternatively if you are an empty headed easily impressed right wing cretin the pages of Mein Kampf would be a rivetting read.

To be honest a recommendation not to read Mein Kampf due to its boring nature usually comes from a person who has actually read it.

Thats how I would look at it.

And if they've read it they might just know a little about history.

They may even know more than someone with a Kaiser Bill poster on their bedroom wall :D
By Smilin' Dave
#1649853
His goal was to elevate the most intelligent people to the highest levels

Unless they were from the wrong race. You think maybe Hitler appropriated meritocratic language as justification (both politically and for himself)? Maybe he appointed Hjalmar Schacht because there wasn't a single good economist in the Nazi party proper, rather than a desire to appoint the best man for the job?
By Melar
#1650153
Unless they were from the wrong race.


Of course, you really think it's a good idea to have aliens in important positions of power or influence. All those cases where some such enricher robbed a nation of its nuclear bomb technology or some such shouldn't really concern you, isn't that right? Everyone also knows without asking that you think Hitler was either ignorant or lying when he wrote that Marxist agitation by Jews was responsible for Germany's defeat in the First World War. You just ignore any facts that go against your fantasy view of the world, don't you? "It's Good versus Evil, itz, and the Good always win!" Seriously, at some point you're going to have to decide between reality or television. One of them is lying to you about what kind of world it is.
By Smilin' Dave
#1650631
Of course, you really think it's a good idea to have aliens in important positions of power or influence.

Aliens... like E.T? ;)

Germany's Jews were not alien. They were some of the best assimilated Jews in Europe. Jews even served with distinction for Germany during WWI, contrary to the stab in the back legend.

All those cases where some such enricher robbed a nation of its nuclear bomb technology

The nation didn't make the technology, the individual did. And if you were thinking of Einstein and such, they only fled the country due to the Nuremburg laws and such. It seems to have your cause and effect backwards.

Hitler was either ignorant or lying when he wrote that Marxist agitation by Jews was responsible for Germany's defeat in the First World War.

Ignorance does seem to the case, given that there was no shortage of Germans who were sick of the war. And don't you think the final allied offensive had something to do with Germany's defeat?

"It's Good versus Evil, itz, and the Good always win!"

'Good' doesn't always win, that's why people have to fight for it. Surely you can understand that.

Seriously, at some point you're going to have to decide between reality or television.

I don't watch television much any more, so your ad hom attack isn't even factual. So where is your reality now?
By Dempsey
#1651012
Melar, if you're from Germany could you contribute to this thread ? There are some points raised by MVictorP. Who the Germans blamed for the stabbaccking?
By Thomas Erastus
#1678533
My personal view is that Hitler had the ideological and conceptual coherence of a shaved monkey. In that respect I agree partly with Attila the Hun's claim that, "his policies changed quite rapidly and literally woke up some days and said something which completely counteracted what he said earlier."

This probably represents my view of Hitler's ideology:
Hitlerism integrated Benito Mussolini's fascism, Hegel's and Nietzsche's philosophy, a touch of social Darwinism, with the racialism advanced by Houston Chamberlain and others. Add into that an unhealthy dose of militarism, ultra-nationalism, totalitarianism, expansionism, antisemitism, anti-Bolshevism and one almighty chip on the shoulder and one has something that resembles Hitler's ideology.

As to his economic policy, as I understand it he was in favor of central planning and the mobilization of the economy for war but not collectivization of wealth in the communist sense. As a totalitarian he supported the subordination of all aspects of society to the state including the economy.

As to Mein Kumpf, it could indeed put a glass eye to sleep. The more political components are engaging, but the first half which consists of autobiographical details is historically incorrect and as boring as concrete.

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