[Politicus]

And even if I have to force you to do good, you will do it.

If life was about getting what you wanted I'd have a girlfriend

You just explained why you don't have a girlfriend.

I don't think Cheney really gives a hoot about gay marriage. The whole amendment business is just a circus. Reagan proposed an amendment to balance the budget when accused of deficit spending. It's a way for presidents to pander to those who don't know better.

The whole FCC decency thing is also a convenient distraction. Ashcroft stands in front of a bare breasted statue of justice every time he speaks from the Deptartment of Justice, but Janet's boob flash is a scandal??? Janet and Justin bump and grind for 10 minutes and that's OK, but her bare breast is not? Kids can watch prime time violence but not see a flash of a female body part? It's not even genitalia people! and we're talking about about a brief flash here.

Airwave television's message seems to be that it's OK to be cruel, violent and kill people as long as you don't do anything remotely sexual.

Personally, I'd much favor Cheney getting an oval office blowjob from an intern over hundreds of Americans dying half way around the world (if those were my only choices).

When did the Republican party morph from the progressive activists like Teddy Roosevelt to the status quo prudes like Cheney? Even Nixon gave the US OSHA and a host of other regulations, fixed prices and such. Obviously something different happened with Reagan. Only the namesake of the GOP survives.

Although Lynne Cheney's writing is an anomaly. Or is it? At least the Cheney's accept their lesbian daughter although I don't know if they would bless her marriage.

[liberalist]

Also, fascists, such as Hitler, saw things like pornography and prostitution as disgusting.

Could you please remember to distinguish between fascism and Nazism. Hilter was a Nazi, fascism is something completely different. Nazism and Fascism are NOT the same.

[bushwhack'd]

Nazism used demagoguery to demean and justify the extermination of Jews and other undesirables. I would agree that fascism does not embrace this idea. However, fascism comes from the belief that things will not run without the state and that the state, from its mandate, should direct the economy and society to create "efficiecy," both in society (one superior race) and in economy. This is where I get the parallels.

I will stipulate, however, that fascism in and of itself is NOT Nazism. Hitler took fascism to another level that is simply unacceptable. Fascism, by its merits, is not inherently evil, although one small turn and it will be so.

[bushwhack'd]

By the way, who in the heck put that caption under my name? Curious...

[Noumenon]

The caption is automatically there for all new users, and it changes after you reach 20 posts I think.

[Lohr]

I think that a simple way to put would be that both conservatives and liberals are both big government but on different issues

liberals want more government intervention in the economy

conservatives want more government in moral/social issues

populist/communitarians want governement intervention in both

libertarianis want intervention in neither...

what do you all think? accurate?

[JustinGilmore]

flag burning

There's nothing more ethical than burning a flag. And after what some of protesters do to disrespect the flag, the proper course of action IS to burn it. We treat our flags like the Norse treated their warriors. After a lifetime of hard fighting, they are sent off gloriously in a wave of fire.

Flags aren't supposed to get too old to fly. Once they can no longer fight, they are sent off with honour.

Never let anyone tell you flag burning is wrong.

As for the original poster:

Conversatives are fairly "status quo" as a whole. The things you mentioned, while also being hands off government, are also seen as attacks on the conservative way of life. Although the government isn't interfering, the action in question [abortion, gay marriage, what have you] ARE in fact having an impact. The proper course [in some people's eyes, depending on issue] then is for the government to TAKE an action to remove the offense.

That's the theory anyway.

i'll reserve my right to burn anything which i damned feel the need to burn

[bbeaman1978]

Conservatives want the government out of your bank and in your bedroom, while liberals want the government out of your bedroom and in your bank. They're both equally for/against government, just in different ways. Pick your poison.

Then since I want the government out of my bank and out of my bedroom what does that make me.... Rebublicrat? Or maybe I'm clinging to a fantasy world of fairy dust and wizards. Never know. **Poof**

[liberalist]

Then since I want the government out of my bank and out of my bedroom what does that make me.... Rebublicrat? Or maybe I'm clinging to a fantasy world of fairy dust and wizards. Never know. **Poof**

You sound like a Libertarian. They are the true liberals. (Remember in America liberal means big government, whilst elsewhere liberal means small government.)

[Lohr]

Then since I want the government out of my bank and out of my bedroom what does that make me.... Rebublicrat? Or maybe I'm clinging to a fantasy world of fairy dust and wizards. Never know. **Poof**

if you're fiscally conservative and socially liberal then you would be considered a libertarian....however, I saw in another thread that you were anti-choice, which would kind of contradict your libertarian ideology....putting you more along the conservative lines....tell me, what do you think of gun control?

[Noumenon]

if you're fiscally conservative and socially liberal then you would be considered a libertarian....however, I saw in another thread that you were anti-choice, which would kind of contradict your libertarian ideology....putting you more along the conservative lines....tell me, what do you think of gun control?

Libertarians are generally split on the issue of abortion, and usually it is not one of their major issues. Personally, I don't think being pro-life goes against libertarian ideals. Libertarians believe the sole purpose of the government is to protect rights. If the fetus has rights, then the government must protect them.

[Insignus]

Some people do just ride the issues to the office ya know

personally, i prefer AutoRepocracy.

[FutureNow]

i prefer AutoRepocracy.

Is that a government system based on the DMV(department of motor vehicle)? exp. Long lines, Poor service, fees.