Tainari88 wrote:Don't be coy BJ. Smear campaigns are effective tools to deligimatize a politician or a party.
Sure. We just spent 5 years listening to Russian conspiracy theory bullshit. It goes both ways. I don't deny that.
Tainari88 wrote:Whatever BJ, you look for excuses for behavior that you would protest vigorously on the other party.
I was never a birther. I thought the whole thing was a red herring. Hillary Clinton's campaign first suggested it, but I think Obama liked it because he knew that people who believed it were effectively neutered politically by chasing phantoms. QAnon stuff is that way as well.
Tainari88 wrote:But for me conservatives usually have awful values, they don't believe in equality and it is all a slippery slope from there.
Actually, a lot of conservatives are egalitarians. I only subscribe to that as uniformity in the application of laws. I do not think people are born equal, socially, economically, genetically, etc. In this sense, I think equality as a concept has outlived its usefulness. Most conservatives generally have Christian, Jewish or another religious background, etc. Why you think they are all bad is probably just mass media portrayals.
Tainari88 wrote:They live side by side with the Roman Catholic Mexicans and are not a threat to the Mexican government BJ.
The Mexican government is not a target of Islamic terrorism.
Tainari88 wrote:Also, you can't really be wanting the best and the brightest anymore from nations that are doing well and are progressing on infrastructure and have very healthy welfare states BJ. Why would a Norweigian college grad in a STEM field want to leave Europe or why would a German medical surgeon want to leave Germany and go through the hassle of going to the USA to become a USA citizen when they already have a high quality of life in the native society?
I work with people who leave those places for the US all the time. They have their reasons. Heck, Linux Torvalds is Finnish, and he left Finland to live in the United States and is now a US citizen.
Tainari88 wrote:Maybe one or two who fall in love with an American citizen and move....but most won't do it BJ. The hassle is not worth it.
There's more to it than that. People with STEM degrees often are extended more opportunities. Europe is very class-oriented, and if you're not from the right class or don't have the right accent, you get passed over for promotion in Europe. The US doesn't work that way. So there are a lot more opportunities.
Tainari88 wrote: The USA should be encouraging PhDs in native USA citizens by making sure $$$ and debt are not barriers to encouraging USA citizen native grow up types to stay and work it out and serve the nation. Right now more than half have to come from outside the USA because the USA is not graduating enough of its own people in hard science, medical and etc careers...they give too much emphasis to BULLSHIT. Not on hard skills. That is the USA gov't fault. Not other nations.
Right. And it's mostly Democrats that push all this horseshit. It's certainly not conservatives.
Tainari88 wrote:Example are the many lawyers you love like Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Obama and Michelle, and many other senators and congresspeople who dedicate themselves to being lawyers out for personal gain and advancement.
What makes you think I love those people?
Tainari88 wrote:You hold on to the blindness of Republican racist KKK members. David Duke was a Republican so was Strom Thurmond and so are many of the fringe people spouting shit theories about inferior genes and Blacks are predators. I won't argue with your faulty logic about morphing political parties because for you? You fail to acknowledge that there are a lot of racists in the Republican party of Trump.
Blacks are predators? Can we talk about Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton for a moment? Who was it that called inner city blacks "super predators"? Can you say, "Hillary Rodham Clinton" with me? Who wrote that 1994 crime bill? Can you say "Joe Biden"? What kind of people is Biden appointing to the DoJ? People who put a black man in prison for 27 years for selling less than $20 worth of drugs. Look at the track record.
Tainari88 wrote:If the old Joe Biden man keels over....I expect you to love your new VP turned President 47 Kamala Harris.
Why? I obviously don't agree with her politics.
Tainari88 wrote:No BJ you don't seem to get that you can be a racist and be married to someone of a different race.
Ok. I guess we can look to Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemmings, eh? Do you think Mitch McConnell talks to her in a mock Chinese accent? I'm guessing that's a no.
Tainari88 wrote:Well, Trumpers in the GOP will give it the death blow. I think McConnell knows this.
And probably well they should.
Tainari88 wrote:Do you think the wealthy robber barons and industrialists that had to negotiate with FDR liked the idea of the welfare state during the Great Depression? No, they hated the idea.
It depends. Mass production types liked it, because redistribution increases aggregate demand for their products.
Tainari88 wrote:And because of that you avoid perpetual revolution of a constant unemployed and a disgruntled class of people that never have access to decently paid work BJ.
Yes. And you tie them to a political party and make them subservient to and always voting for the political party that provides handouts.
Tainari88 wrote:They should try to stop the mass school shootings they get periodically.
Mass shooters are usually on prescription drugs that were probably mis-prescribed.
Tainari88 wrote:Instead of laying all the blame on Democrats.
Democrats blame everyone but themselves. Yet, if you want to talk about many of these serious social issues, you'll find that they are typically happening where Democrats are in charge. Nancy Pelosi's Congressional district, for example, has a GINI co-efficient that's worse than the Congo.
Tainari88 wrote:That subprime deal is about lack of ethics capitalist loving pendejos. Don't say it ain't!
I think it was deeply misguided, but it was sold on extending credit to the less fortunate.
Tainari88 wrote:Then why the VP Kamala and the ex prez 44 Obama if the Democratic party is so racist?
Kamala was forced on Biden for making all the racist remarks he did in 2020. Don't you remember? Unlike Blacks, you Hispanics have a broad diversity of views. If you aren't voting for Joe Biden, you ain't black, etc.
Obama? I really don't know, but the show 24 was laying the groundwork for a black president during the Bush years. Maybe they thought his name sounded like Osama bin Laden. Who knows?
Tainarii88 wrote:Are you going to marry or date some Black women that are angry at the Democratic party machine BJ?? Yes or no?
Unlikely. I don't particularly want to be married legally speaking. Keeping the state out of my life is something I prefer.
Tainarii88 wrote:But BJ (Tainari raises her voice and taps her foot), being only interested in finance is CAPITALIST.
Indeed, but it is not conservative. Capitalism is an economic system. It's not a religion, a culture, a language, etc.
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