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Large numbers of migrants are coming from China and Venezuela to the United States. But in the cases the United States is trying to deport these migrants, China and Venezuela are refusing to accept these migrants back.

As a result, the U.S. is caught in a difficult position and practically being forced to keep the migrants.
It's almost as if these other countries are "offloading" the undesirable segment of their population off onto the U.S.
It's also a little like blackmail, playing a game with human lives.

Many of the Chinese migrants who made the journey to the U.S. never went to the trouble of Chinese passports.
(The migrants did not fly directly to the U.S. but rather flew to another country and then came by land, arriving at the U.S. border, and then either illegally entering or claiming "asylum", which under the policies of the Biden Administration has been treated as an automatic ticket to gain entrance into the country)

Without Chinese passports, China is refusing to accept them.

(It's also possible some of these Chinese migrants might have been informed that they will have better chances of being allowed to stay in the U.S. if they do not have a passport, so they either intentionally decided not to get one before they left China, or they intentionally lost their passports)

This despite the obvious fact that a person who looks Chinese and fluently speaks Chinese must obviously have originally come from China and be a Chinese citizen.

(And even if a migrant was trying to get into China from another country bordering China, it would not be more difficult for them to just sneak directly into China rather than make the trip to the U.S. to be able to get deported to China. China does not really have a good way of knowing who their citizens are, especially if the person looks Chinese and fluently speaks Chinese. And China also has their own passport system within their country, which denies migrants certain benefits if they did obtain approval to move to a different province)


some parts of news articles from various sources below

Venezuela has followed through on a threat to stop accepting flights of migrants deported from the U.S. and Mexico, people familiar with the measures say, adding pressure on President Biden as a surge in illegal migration becomes a key issue in this year's presidential election.
President Nicolas Maduro's authoritarian regime introduced the measure after Washington reimposed some of the economic sanctions it had previously lifted on Venezuela. The U.S. said that Venezuela has failed to live up to the loose pledges it made to restore the democratic order and move toward holding fair presidential elections.​

Venezuela Halts Flights of Deported Migrants From U.S. and Mexico Flights were a key tool for the Biden administration to deter illegal migration from a major source country, Kejal Vyas and Santiago Pérez, The Wall Street Journal, February 22, 2024
https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/vene ... o-962f6149

Over 140,000 unauthorized into the U.S. in the month of February 2024.
The number of Venezuelan migrant crossings is up compared to February last year, more than 6,000 coming this month. Fewer than 2,000 migrants were flown back to Venezuela in the past four months. That's just a fraction of those whom officials apprehended.
The removal flights sending migrants who entered the U.S. without authorization back to Venezuela have been rejected by their government for the past four weeks. The reason: The U.S. imposed sanctions on state-owned mining companies. Other sanctions hitting oil and gas are also on the table.​

Venezuela stops deportation flights from US, Ali Bradley, NewsNation, February 23, 2024
https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/i ... s-from-us/

'Disillusioned about China', more Chinese aim for US via risky Darien Gap
In 2023, Chinese migrants become the largest group outside the Americas to cross the treacherous region to reach the US.

"It's down to political and economic uncertainties," said Min Zhou, a professor of sociology and Asian-American studies at the University of California, Los Angeles. "There has been a downturn in the Chinese economy. People have become unemployed, and there’s discontentment about the government's tight policies.
"They are now coming from all over the country. They are skilled. Some are college graduates." According to Zhou, who is carrying out a research project on newly arrived Chinese migrants in Los Angeles, this wave of undocumented Chinese citizens is markedly different from the wave of migration in the 1980s and 1990s.​

'Disillusioned about China', more Chinese aim for US via risky Darien Gap, Peter Yeung, Al Jazeera News, February 22, 2024
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2024/ ... darien-gap

Only 288 Chinese citizens were deported from the United States during the 2023 fiscal year despite border authorities encountering more than 24,000 in the same time frame, as concerns have increased over a sudden influx of Chinese migrants at a key border sector. More than 21,000 Chinese citizens have already been apprehended in the Border Patrol's San Diego Sector alone during the 2024 fiscal year. A New York Times report last year revealed there were more than 100,000 Chinese nationals in the U.S. with final orders of removal that had not been deported. The low number of removals highlights the difficulty of deporting Chinese citizens to their home country. China has generally been uncooperative, sometimes refusing to accept its citizens back.

The number of Chinese nationals crossing through the San Diego Sector is second only to Colombia (28,000). Third is Mexican nationals with 18,700.
That year, only 834 Venezuelans were deported despite 335,000 Venezuelan citizens were encountered by border authorities. Just over 201,000 of them were apprehended by Border Patrol agents after crossing illegally into the U.S. The rest were encountered at ports of entry.

The number of Chinese migrants appearing at the southern border has been increasing since fiscal 2021. In fiscal 2022, numbers increased to more than 2,000 border-wide. In fiscal 2023, that number then surged to more than 24,314.

The influx has raised concerns from lawmakers and border authorities because of China's espionage efforts as well as being an adversary of the U.S.​

Only 288 Chinese citizens deported from US in FY 23 despite 24,000 encounters at border as influx continues, Louis Casiano and Bill Melugin, Fox News, February 22, 2024
https://www.foxnews.com/us/only-288-chi ... -continues
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