[Cheesecake_Marmalade]

Just as all gender based species

Fail.

[emoshunless]

Fail.

No... don't worry.. I'll wait for your point eer whatever....
I'll just assume you accidentally pressed submit before you were done adding what was "fail" and why was "fail".

[Cheesecake_Marmalade]

You are correct that human sexuality is determined by gender and gender identity (which falls in line with orientation and all that other good stuff), but gender is different from sex, which denotes only the biology of animals, whether they dangle or not. The fact that we can think rationally about whether or not we identify as male and female, or the cultural and social roles that come with being male or female, sort of makes the whole "animals do it like this so we have to" idea.

In any case, animals also engage in homosexual activities, so your naturalistic fallacy isn't even warranted.

[emoshunless]

Sorry..
Is your challange to me:

"rational thinking" therefor we do not conform to the sexual standard of gender based species

Or

That not all gender based species reproductive process involves, a males seeking (sex)
And a female attracting and choosing "fittest male".
(As the original statement you quoted from was addressing.)

Neither? Both? Random Insult?

If you meant the second statement I wrote, please include example/s


Also to clarify, what I and most mean by a "gender based species"
is a species two different memebers of the species, one producing an egg, and one producing a "seed" (dangling) having to come together and reproduce. Rather then self replacation or hermaphoditic species.

[Cheesecake_Marmalade]

No, my point is that you are misusing the term gender. The word you're looking for is sex. Gender = identification, rational thought that leads you to discovering the gender role you wish to play.

[emoshunless]

No, my point is that you are misusing the term gender. The word you're looking for is sex. Gender = identification, rational thought that leads you to discovering the gender role you wish to play.

Oh, that's kind of what I thought at first.

Gender has many definitions.
Its actual definition is from its use in grammar ("a set of classes that together include all nouns")
membership of a word or grammatical form, or an inflectional form showing membership, in such a class.
The class in most languages generally are masculine and feminine, but can be up to 20 classes.

Now of course it has been given other definitions such as.

a. The condition of being female or male; sex.

2 a : sex <the feminine gender>

b : the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex.

1: The sex, either male or female.


With in context of my statement what I meant by a "gender based species" was.

"gender based" (2 classes/having sexual roles for reproduction) "species" (biological life form)

Using "sex" in context of the topic it would have easily suggested "the act of" which would have included homosexuals because they to have sex.

Pass!

[Cheesecake_Marmalade]

"gender based" (2 classes/having sexual roles for reproduction)

There are three classes, and actually more than that. You are forgetting hermaphrodites etc.

[emoshunless]

gender based" (2 classes/having sexual roles for reproduction)

There are three classes, and actually more than that. You are forgetting hermaphrodites etc.

How does a hermaphrodite add a third a class of sexual roles for reproduction. Human hermaphrodites can not reproduce with them selves so it still takes two beings uses two seperatly two sets of functioning reproductive organs.

The rare hermaphrodite having both male and female reproductive organs, Could only fill one role in reproductive process. Depending on which organ the hermaphrodite used the male or female.... one of the two gender classes, in a gender based species.

1. Woo woo dilly, dangler, male
2. Cha Cha, sugar spice and everything nice, female.

[QatzelOk]

The male seeks to impregnate in order to spread his to (as many as possible) females due to the basic attraction. (rarely seeking for other reasons (job, money etc)

This is the natural behavior of the I just got layed off at the DQ, and now I'm gonna screw as many chicks as I can because I'm cute and girls feel comfortable around me male, and not just any male - human or otherwise.

It only applies to a specific demographic who watch a lot of TV.

[emoshunless]

Someone get this boy a damn science book...

It only applies to a specific demographic who watch a lot of TV.

Please your shtick is tiring, get some new lines.... once again I don't watch tv....

[QatzelOk]

Then where did you learn you instrumental biology?

It sounds like something that fictional characters learn in mass media.

[emoshunless]

Then where did you learn you instrumental biology?

It sounds like something that fictional characters learn in mass media.

I've never heard the term instrumental biology.

What do you consider mass media? Books? School? Its all mass media.

[Agent Steel]

I have always maintained that homosexuality was more natural than heterosexuality. It seems that heterosexuality is only a strategy for producing soldiers.

Didn't you ever think about why our sex organs are there? What is a woman's vagina for? What are her eggs for? They are there so that humans can reproduce with one another.

[emoshunless]

Didn't you ever think about why our sex organs are there? What is a woman's vagina for? What are her eggs for? They are there so that humans can reproduce with one another.

Don't mind him, he don't likes book learnin! because its a way to distribute information to a large group of people...

Your statements obviously are true.
And with use of Logic and reason, most would come to the same conclusion.

But to be fair, I think the overall topic was referring to our instinct to mate, not that the parts are still there.

I do feel its evolved, and does have an effect with females to a point.
*but its still there*, and will never go away.

*Most females have the drive to have and care for children, and females that don't, generally replace them with animals.*

*Males still have the strong urge to mate and have a much stronger attraction to women.
Watch when a pretty lady walk through a area with a fair amount of men .... its hilarious to see the majority of the the males head follow in unison..*

[reddeath26]

Then where did you learn you instrumental biology?

It sounds like something that fictional characters learn in mass media.

They are presenting one of the standard stances held by evolutionary psychologists and sociobiologists. Not that I find myself overly agreeable with that line of thinking. I am of the view that they lean too much towards ethnocentrism and just so stories. However in saying that, if you are interested in their arguments I do have some pdfs of books which include it. I would be quite happy to send some to you.

[Agent Steel]

So then if the OP is true, why do I have an uncontrollable urge to have heterosexual sex?

[Lightman]

Didn't you ever think about why our sex organs are there? What is a woman's vagina for? What are her eggs for? They are there so that humans can reproduce with one another.

Why is an atheist demanding a teleological explanation for human sexuality and/or evolution?

[Rich]

Wrong! Society has to spend loads of energy discouraging heterosexual activity, particularly by teen age lads. Maybe the people who wrote this were autistic, but I see plenty of Hetro instinct and people aint faking it to fit in with society.