- 09 Jan 2011 21:06
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Honestly, Konulu, once upon a time, the discussion would have facilitated the pursuit of truth, what any "wannabe" Philosopher would so pursue. Today, I more wish to polish the truth than discover it. All the same, good conversation comes through when participants are learned and opine properly. It was ironically unlearned women who disturbed the conversation and sunk it from a conversation relating to the truth of the female condition and brought it to a series of insults untypical of most.
To put the topic in a better perspective, suppose that the OP was a thesis on how Stalin regarded a particularly close subordinate and how this relationship led to some progress in a district of Moscow's. If someone later comes in to tell of how Trotsky was better than Stalin and one happened to disagree, the more specific and interesting question becomes neglected and the Trotskyist can be exposed as a troll though undetectable by the early researcher. On this, someone may come in and say "For what do you have this Trotsky/Stalin debate, do you wish to revive them from the dead?" But in actuality, the original purpose of the conversation was broken away from but only temporarily, in the viewpoint of those speaking, so to say, the conversation purposes to approach or polish the truth, to look into and observe the human condition, and the predominant speakers only sink away from the topic to either defend their honor or give charity to those not as fortunate to be so educated. On the latter point, a proverb justifies: To those much is given, much is expected.
So if we break from the analogy we can expose what had happened. "Commercial Feminism" was pronounced negative and we gathered to agree and share insights thereupon, but some took it upon themselves to insult men and their capacities so some men took to responding. We made an error, of course. Not realizing that these soi-disant feminists would 'troll' us from our conversation, but such only needs to be archived in history. As to your questions, it can be evident that conversation with bright individuals expands the facilities and makes for positive changes in the outlook and perspective of people. My personal work with the feminist question, more particularly the 'sex' question, has been an incredibly positive experience.