[ReleaseTheHunkyTruth]

yes that is the foundation of a succesful child development program

I shield my children from my sexual life just like any other parent would.

[The Clockwork Rat]

Back to the moon and women, what exactly are you trying to get out of this study?

[Dave]

I think I gave a quick run-down of a study in this sub-forum that found children raised by lesbian couples were usually more emotionally stable than heterosexually raised children, and had no significant difference in academic ability. I won't mention that they also tended to be more sexually adventurous.

Oxy, try backing up some of your claims for once.

If memory serves, the study was funded by some sort of lesbian organization (which doesn't refute it but does cast suspicion), did not include an adopted twin study, and was not longitudinal either. There shouldn't be a significant difference in academic ability since that is most strongly related to IQ, which is (predominantly) hereditary. I am not sure how raising more promiscuous children is considered some sort of blessing, unless venereal diseases are the wave of the bold progressive future.

Meanwhile I post results about race-IQ correlation and heredity from multiple multi-decade adopted twin studies and dozens of longitudinal studies from multiple societies, and...

Well, you get the idea.

[Ter]

OK, we've all been had.
This is April's Fool Day and some admin or mod is having us on.
I guess it is Demosthenes.
This is trolling on such a grand scale, it HAS to be a joke.

1 APRIL !




Ter

[ReleaseTheHunkyTruth]

What kind of bizarre assumption is that? I'm raising promiscuous children? Wtf?

I don't think you know what promiscuous means.

[Oxymoron]

Based on the introduction thread and the username I also at first assumed it to be a joke thread, but then she started becoming defensive sooooo its more tragic then funny now.

[Donna]

What's the end-goal of your race-IQ activism, David? Just curious.

[ReleaseTheHunkyTruth]

Based on the introduction thread and the username I also at first assumed it to be a joke thread, but then she started becoming defensive sooooo its more tragic then funny now.

I will defend myself from stupidity when I need to.

[yiwahikanak]

Based on the introduction thread and the username I also at first assumed it to be a joke thread, but then she started becoming defensive sooooo its more tragic then funny now.

I have no idea why she'd feel a need to be defensive...it's not like you aggressively attacked her and accused her basically of child abuse or anything.

[The Clockwork Rat]

did not include an adopted twin study, and was not longitudinal either.

I haven't found either as of yet, so I guess we can't make a firm judgement either way. However, the comparative study should at least encourage a certain level of open-mindedness.

[Madagascar]

That's a really interesting subject of study, Release. Have you found that women who experience irregular menstrual cycles experience a corresponding irregularity when lactating?

My dilemma is that my logic side tells me that the moon is just a hunk of rock floating in space, but there is just so much incontrovertible evidence for the effect it has on us - particularly women. I find it really hard to reconcile these two conflicting emotions

Hi Release - I posted this no page 1 but I'm not sure if you didn't see it or just didn't feel like answering... if it's the second reason I totally understand!

[Dave]

I haven't found either as of yet, so I guess we can't make a firm judgement either way. However, the comparative study should at least encourage a certain level of open-mindedness.

I think that childhood environment is basically less important than people think. When you look at adopted twin studies, monozygous twins end up with fairly similar life outcomes regardless of parents. This makes sense, given that intelligence is 60-80% hereditary and personality factors are around 50% hereditary (but less is known about these than intelligence).

This doesn't mean parents are irrelevant, but they should be humble and realize that the most they can do is push their children with certain bounds. I feel like emotional well being, values, and manners are the things most significantly influenced by parents. These aren't irrelevant, but they're hard to measure in social sciences. The second most important thing is probably obvious to you as a leftist--connections, financial assistance, and career track guidance.

[ReleaseTheHunkyTruth]

Hi Release - I posted this no page 1 but I'm not sure if you didn't see it or just didn't feel like answering... :?: if it's the second reason I totally understand!

Oh, sorry, I missed it. The thread got bogged down quite quickly and I started skimming. I'll attempt an answer now.

I consider myself to have a spiritual connection with the lunar cycle. Contrary to some posts in this thread, I do not worship the moon. The spiritual side of my relationship with it is connected to my deep interest in its effect on my life and body. It's not important, to me, that the moon is a hunk of rock floating in space. It has physical and spiritual effects on my mind and body. Food is just hunks of atoms, love is just electrical and chemical signals in the brain. That doesn't make them unreal or illogical.

I haven't looked into irregular cycles, though it sounds like an interesting line of thought.

[U184]

Lunar cycles have an affect on menstrual cycles, melatonin in particular is higher in the body during night time and is affected by a full moon. Introducing melatonin during pregnancy/lactation is generally a bad idea. I am sure that doses of melatonin during a full moon are lower than say, the high doses one could have from supplements, by my concern would be longterm exposure.

However on a good note antidepressants increase melatonin, thus melatonin does help balance the unbalanced.

In your studies do you do chemical testing and or bloodwork, during different phases of the moon and do you have a control where you are doing the same as well?

I think I gave a quick run-down of a study in this sub-forum that found children raised by lesbian couples were usually more emotionally stable than heterosexually raised children, and had no significant difference in academic ability.

Support please.

[The Clockwork Rat]

When you look at adopted twin studies, monozygous twins end up with fairly similar life outcomes regardless of parents.

I find it hard to believe that there would be that great a genetic difference between inner-city poor, and suburban middle class. Do you have links to studies on hand? I've got a fair bit of access to papers like them through Uni.

I consider myself to have a spiritual connection with the lunar cycle.

It has physical and spiritual effects on my mind and body.

What does a spiritual connection mean to you, and what physical effects does the moon have?

Support please.

I said that I had done the run-down in this forum, and I usually provide links to studies with my posts. I can't be fucked looking for it, so you'll just have to take it up on trust.

[ReleaseTheHunkyTruth]

I do no medical studies beyond simple observation as I'm not qualified in that regards and I won't put my family at risk. My research is observational in nature, it is scientifically performed in the sense that I measure results over time and repeat experiments, but it is not necessarily comprehensive. The moon affects us in ways I can't even begin to understand, but I'm fascinated by it, so I attempt to do so in layman ways.

[Madagascar]

I consider myself to have a spiritual connection with the lunar cycle. Contrary to some posts in this thread, I do not worship the moon. The spiritual side of my relationship with it is connected to my deep interest in its effect on my life and body. It's not important, to me, that the moon is a hunk of rock floating in space. It has physical and spiritual effects on my mind and body. Food is just hunks of atoms, love is just electrical and chemical signals in the brain. That doesn't make them unreal or illogical.

That's such an awesome way of looking at it. Thanks for sharing !

[The Clockwork Rat]

The moon affects us in ways I can't even begin to understand

I'm very sceptical when it comes to spiritualists, so I'll treat most of what you say with a pinch of salt, unless backed up with something.

[Thompson_NCL]

My money is on it being Carter. I've always imagined him as the sort of man who could conduct field research into lactation...

[Donna]

That's a good point TCR, but your use of the emoticon was a bit rude.