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@quetzalcoatl , thanks for your replies! you said;


Marxists may acknowledge that the state, in theory, may wither away. In 20th century practice, it appears that once a vanguard is installed as protector of the revolution, the state becomes an ossified, permanent entity.


Are you sure ''ossified'' is a good descriptor of the State in such a situation? I of course see several reasons why that might be so, and a few go directly to my opinions on Marxist-Leninism and the bulk of the Socialists today. I see here that your address the problem further;


Hierarchies become destructive as they become removed and distant, unresponsive to the needs of their members. Smaller more local hierarchies preserve the individuals sense of belonging. The state is the mechanism by which these smaller hierarchies express their collective will. (Bolsheviks understood this at some level. Workers Soviets were originally intended to govern the newly created state.)


One could make that argument, yes.


The state will never wither away as long as humans aspire to collective action. Not sure if this makes me a statist. I don't worship power, as the libertarian critique might suggest. But I do see it as a necessity for humans to live together. Perhaps this will be proven wrong in the future, but I don't think it will.


I agree, although as my political spectrum suggests, there are those who really do worship power via the mechanisms of the State, and those I placed on the RIGHT of the Spectrum (Fascists, Monarchists, Reactionaries of all sorts, etc...). Those who worship themselves and their own individual might as a means of keeping and extending power, I placed on what I called the REAL LEFT (Libertarians, Objectivists, Anarcho-Capitalists, etc...) :D ;)



I've formulated a few modest alternatives to the common liberal tropes of limited government:

1) Government is not the solution. Government is not the problem. Government is the tool of collective public purpose.

2) That government which governs least governs least. That government which governs best governs best. There is no causal connection between these two statements.

3) There is no ideal size of government. The size of government is determined by the collective public purpose.


Can't say that I can disagree with any of that. :)
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@Potemkin , @Victoribus Spolia, and others;

So, in practical modern terms, how is one who condemns revolution and counter-revolution as such, yet believes in the Popular Will, in true Democracy, in Socialism within the context of the Nation in which it arises, how am I to speak to and about modern events and the things that are to come?

Can't have ''Soviet Democracy'' without ''Democratic Centralism'', as i've shown before. Arising from the Popular Will, including the Popular will of the Dead, of previous generations, there is the leadership of the people, best expressed in the Mladorossi slogan; ''Tsar and the Soviets''.

The Geopolitical position that results is a kind of Eurasianism or rather Anti-Atlanticism, similar to Alexander Dugin but perhaps without some of the language and philosophical baggage some see with him. Back with Oswald Spengler too, but against him and his ''Faustian Civilization'' of the West and with his ''Magian'' one.

The opposite of Karl Popper's ''Open Society'', let's put it that way.... I'm for the ''Closed Society'', to be sure. History really does unfold in accordance with inexorable, deterministic laws. We may not understand them, may never understand them fully, but they exist. Plato, Hegel, Marx, each with something to say worthwhile as far as I'm concerned.

But more of them later. Point to take away from this post is that democracy is not democracy if it is not also illiberal in my opinion.
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@Potemkin , @Victoribus Spolia, and others, my friends;

Now I shall speak as promised of the rise of US President Donald Trump. Having a certain background and having determined that Trump would be President as soon as he entered the 2016 electoral race, I can speak with some standing as to what will happen in the future and why. Liberals may not like it. ''Conservatives'' may not either, and both be confounded.

1. President Trump will win for sure in 2020 his bid for re-election, and he is already beginning to bring his enemies to heel. There is no stopping it, no stopping what is coming.

2. President Trump is thinking long term, and is establishing a Dynasty that will be the masters of America for decades if not centuries to come. There is no stopping it, it absolutely will be happening. His children and grandchildren will be Presidents, and they will transform the United States of America.

3. President Trump is dedicated to the proposition that America will never be Socialist, and that ''America First'' means ''America First over all the World'', and thus that Socialism (or anything that smacks of favor towards the workers beyond Welfarism) of any kind will not be allowed to take root and thrive anywhere in the World and pose even a mere intellectual and ideological threat to America and Capitalism, much less a physical and existential threat to America and Capitalism. To him, America and Capitalism are identical.

4. For all their bitter kvetching, the Western Elites are beginning to realize all this and make their peace with it, give Trump a place at the table, maybe even the head place. They are just going through the motions of pretending to be against him at this point. Some foot soldiers have not received the memo to stand down, but really this was all planned out many years ago, as Trump was being groomed for the Presidency in the Nixon and Reagan years by elements of circles within those Administrations.

5. President Trump is a war President, and an Economic Collapse President. These events are necessary to make America great again, and there will be a lot of pain. Some of it necessary in some people's eyes, some not so much. But people will still regard President Trump highly, in fact his popularity will even grow and grow higher.

Some of you will not like what I have to say. I don't even like some of what i've said. But nobody with real as opposed to hollow figurehead power gives a damn about what you think. Most of you who think you hate him now will learn to love him and his family and the political team around them, and love them sincerely. Some of you will pretend to be incredulous at what I'm saying. But in your heart you know that I am right.
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Now, what I'm planning for future reflections and discussion is tying some of this all together from a spiritual angle, the eschatological and apocalyptic dimensions of the times we're living in. Picking up some of these points I've made earlier in this thread about Orthodox Christianity, Mormonism, Islam, Israel, and President Trump/America/Capitalism, Russia, and the fate of Western Civilization as a whole.

Some of it will sound crazy, some of it definitely controversial and bizarre.
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annatar1914 wrote:Now, what I'm planning for future reflections and discussion is tying some of this all together from a spiritual angle, the eschatological and apocalyptic dimensions of the times we're living in. Picking up some of these points I've made earlier in this thread about Orthodox Christianity, Mormonism, Islam, Israel, and President Trump/America/Capitalism, Russia, and the fate of Western Civilization as a whole.

Some of it will sound crazy, some of it definitely controversial and bizarre.


One of the reflections I had was an insistence that Mormonism would be the new religion of the Western Civilization because of some of my ideas concerning America and America's role in the future. I was wrong about Mormonism, but my thoughts were stimulated by the reflection on the uses to which religion is used by the Elites and how religion conversely acts upon the Elites in turn.

In order to illustrate this, I will engage in my next post upon what I consider to be the meaning of the Fatima apparitions that began in 1917, and how because of the 3rd Fatima Secret, the Papacy will fully guide the destiny of the Western World through it's final phase. This will only seem to be a digression; I assure my readers that it will not be.

Edit; I have decided that if I cover the ''Fatima'' Phenomena and how I believe the Roman Catholic Church will profit from it in the future, I will do so in a separate thread from this one.
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