[Hindsite]

For Shias, that should be 1 fifth of a person fortune given for the benifit of the nation.

For Shias are of the devil.

[ingliz]

“Yep, sure looks like the Shroud to me. Let’s cut it and get out of here.”

Only after one month of careful study on where to cut the linen samples for dating were the samples removed from the Shroud. This process was observed personally by Mons. Dardozzi (Vatican Academy of Science), Prof. Testore (Turin University professor of textile technology), Prof. Vial (Director of the Lyon Ancient Textiles Museum), Profs. Hall and Hedges (heads of the Oxford radiocarbon dating laboratory) and Prof. Tite (head of the British Museum research laboratory).

[anasawad]

Aha!!

[ingliz]

Recent micro-chemical tests performed on thread samples from the area cut for carbon dating have been compared with threads taken from the main body of the Shroud and low and behold they are not the same!

Tests performed using a shoddy and unreliable methodology on undocumented thread samples are just so much noise.

a shoddy and unreliable methodology

In biological sciences, a scientist would be hard-pressed to get their paper published if they ever attempted to quantify vanillin on the basis of this staining technique

on undocumented thread samples

There is no official record of the supposed removal or donation of the 2 radiocarbon dating sample threads that Rogers claimed to possess.

Similarly, there is no official record of the supposed removal or donation of the 14 threads from the main body of the shroud.

fooled by the handiwork of highly skilled French re-weavers

Benford and Marino submitted their speculations in a paper to the scientific journal Radiocarbon, it was rejected after peer review.

An anecdote illustrates their incompetence:

Benford and Marino laughably publish a photo of a historical Shroud replica that they claim shows a missing corner section that was later patched; but this photo is a low-resolution JPEG image and the "missing corner" is really an artifact produced when low-resolution JPEG images are magnified beyond their true size!

Rogers' argument relies on patches (Benford and Marino, 2000); detailed photographs of the area from which the radiocarbon dated sample was removed clearly reveal that there was no patch there.

patches

Observers present when the sample was removed:

We carefully inspected the shroud and we are sure that this sampling place was representing the whole shroud.

I examined carefully the cloth all along the warp and filling of the threads concerned, without noticing any splicing

rejected after peer review.

Ray Rogers’ research reviewed by Radiocarbon:

Although the results of Ray Rogers’ research testing the hypothesis posed in the paper submitted to Radiocarbon was sent to the journal following the rejection of the paper, no comment or reconsideration was forthcoming from the Editor.

1,300 to 3,000 years old

The 'unpublished' ( ) Rossman data:

Rossman found that the non-contaminated end of the thread dated to 200 AD while the starched end dated to 1200 AD

Even if, for the sake of argument, we accept that Rossman gave Adler these numbers and they are correct. A 3rd century fake is no more proof of a historical Jesus than a 14th century forgery.